Joss Prior on Posie Parker, feminism & Mumsnet FWR boards etc

[R0wantrees]

Joss Prior speaks:
www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=590&v=0K2Tf0WvF6s

The full video by Posie Parker is

discussed here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3362782-posie-parker-brilliant-rant

current threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3377022-Standing-for-Women-on-Sky-News-at-4-30

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3377213-Please-MNHQ-overturn-Posie-Parkers-ban

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3375155-Billboard-with-dictionary-definition-woman-adult-human-female-removed-after-pressure-from-TRAs

All you know is what it's like to be as white transwoman (and even then, a white transwoman living in very specific circumstances).

Joss Prior has of course also lived as a white male, boy & man, prior to transitioning.

NotTerf Prior did read this. The poster PrincessConsuelaWotsit who appears on page 2 and talks about how wonderful Prior is, in the third person, eventually admits several pages later, to being Prior.

I really need to find out how to do that "crying with laughter" emoji I've seen on here. (with added tears). Or perhaps that old rich text format only favourite, ROFLMAO.

Whoah that's bizarre. So this Princess person links to Prior's Twitter without ever once saying they are Prior, until eventually:

OH god, how dense, I'm not even trying to suggest I'm not Joss, so save it. Obviously this is me.... christ!

Suggests a total lack of empathy just for starters.

Yes, it's really surreal. First time through the thread PrincessWotsit's posts come across as just an annoying and somewhat vindictive attempt at a detail ("look I found someone who says Posie was nasty to her back when they were school kids"). Then when you re-read it with the benefit of hindsight, knowing Princess is JP - it's like this textbook case study of raging narcissism in action, and also (unintentionally) utterly hilarious.

Joss you post like a bloke.

Well, this has livened up my Sunday morning housewifely and motherly duties no end.

Well I read that Leighton quote and my only reaction was
Posie derailed a New Age gender-bollox meeting? Go Posie!

Some things backfire.

Have a lovely Sunday all.

Joss Prior did a response to Lisa Muggeridge that was pretty embarrassing.

Joss basically tried to twist Lisa's words and use her own arguments against her, while pretending they were Joss's own analysis. Only the effect was to show the difference in intellect. JP obviously doesn't really get what Lisa's talking about.

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3412316-Dr-Adrian-Harrop-thread-the-fourth-GMC-do-care-have-taken-it-to-the-next-level

Princess is not generally a moniker favoured by grown adult women

Whenever I see anything about Joss my mind starts playing the backing track for Tainted Love.

Princess is not generally a moniker favoured by grown adult women

I'm always a bit suspicious of anyone who used 'auntie' in their posting name as well.

Or anyone who talks about how we should be concentrating on period poverty rather than being silly about female spaces.

Julles it’s almost as vomit inducing as the adult who puts Elf Princess in their profile.

Another one worthy of block list.

Joss basically tried to twist Lisa's words and use her own arguments against her, while pretending they were Joss's own analysis. Only the effect was to show the difference in intellect. JP obviously doesn't really get what Lisa's talking about.

Just watched that. Cringe. Aside from what you mentioned, I can see that Joss feels a need to be amusing or pithy in Joss's observations, but due to the lack of any charm, wit or charisma it falls rather flat.

Morning Joss! Happy Sunday to you!

I'm always a bit suspicious of anyone who used 'auntie' in their posting name as well.

Joss Prior comes over as quite thick in this video

R0wantrees

That doesn't sound at all like child grooming, does it?

I can't stop sniggering at Joss posting this about Joss, while still pretending not to be Joss: "you should follow her you would learn a lot!"

I'm cringing myself inside out

I think that some adults can become very invested in (often unresolved) issues that they relate to personally. It happens a lot in situations where there are children & vulnerable adults and however well meaning they often lack the ability to critically reflect and centre the needs of the people they should be supporting.
Its a very common issue in social care, charity settings etc.

Juells I think its a concerning comment for many reasons.

Spot on, R0wantrees.

I think that some adults can become very invested in (often unresolved) issues that they relate to personally. It happens a lot in situations where there are children & vulnerable adults and however well meaning they often lack the ability to critically reflect and centre the needs of the people they should be supporting.

Yes. Across the board: not just about trans issues.

Another fundamental reason why we have safeguarding. It's to protect from the well-meaning but harmful as much as it is to protect from the deliberately malign.

Adults with unresolved issues of their own often project those issues onto children in their lives or that they see around them/know of through media, and while believing that they are advocating for the children, are actually trying to vicariously heal whatever damage they sustained themselves.

It’s a narcissistic approach in that on a fundmental level, they’re incapable of seeing the child concerned as a separate individual with their own unique experience, personality and needs, but only as a kind of extension or reproduction of themselves.

As you say, they “lack the ability to critically reflect and centre the needs of the people they should be supporting.” And not just the ability, but the will to do so, too.

Yy, LangCleg.