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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women on the left are responsible for austerity

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CarrotyO · 17/09/2018 21:59

I've heard it said that women on the left actually support and are therefore in some way responsible for austerity. This is because both Labour and the Tories support austerity. Therefore any woman who supports Labour, or the Left in general, also knowingly and consciously supports austerity and are therefore also responsible for the 1000s of deaths of disabled people caused by austerity. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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CarrotyO · 18/09/2018 12:06

And people are generally fine with unfounded smears against women actively working to protect our sex based rights being propagated but are keen to protect women propagating smears and bringing us all into disrepute with her racist rhetoric. Got it.

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deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:07

Ok. So nobody agrees with the claims Lisa is making. Thank you

Nice copout. But wrong.

I am not nobody. That I do not agree with your spin and misrepresentations of her claims does not mean I do not agree with Lisa's claims.

CarrotyO · 18/09/2018 12:08

So you do think that women involved in Wpuk are responsible for austerity

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AngryAttackKittens · 18/09/2018 12:09

If Carroty wants to have an entire argument with herself and then declare herself the winner who am I to stop her?

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 18/09/2018 12:09

I'm talking generally and not about anyone specific, but if...

Party politics/austerity > all women
Party politics/"anti racism" > all women

Putting party politics ahead of women is not a feminist act.
I don't see how Lisa making this point about specific women is difficult to understand?

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:10

women actively working to protect our sex based rights

Surely that right also includes not being threatened and ostracized by the Brownshirts in Drag?

R0wantrees · 18/09/2018 12:10

If I was a cynic I might wonder if endangering that sense of solidarity was part of the reason why not only was this thread started but the one before it was almost derailed just as it became clear just how vital that thread had been in opening many women's eyes to dynamics that had previously been unclear to them.

AAK I got as far as your comment and have stopped reading!

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:11

*Party politics/austerity > all women
Party politics/"anti racism" > all women

Putting party politics ahead of women is not a feminist act.
I don't see how Lisa making this point about specific women is difficult to understand?*

That

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 18/09/2018 12:12

"generally fine with unfounded smears against women actively working to protect our sex based rights being propagated but are keen to protect women propagating smears and bringing us all into disrepute with her racist rhetoric"

Ie 'where's your evidence for this thing you are saying, but I'm gonna state something unevidenced'. Not hypocritical at all.

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:14

So you do think that women involved in Wpuk are responsible for austerity

I have given you the answer multiple times now, explicitly using words like co-responsible. There is nothing else I can do here, obviously.

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:20

And this is our future. Bisons.

www.deviantart.com/kinn-katze/art/Bashful-Bison-313823850

RedToothBrush · 18/09/2018 12:23

Ok. So nobody agrees with the claims Lisa is making. Thank you

I agree with probably 90%+ of what Lisa says. I think the other 10% minor points in the scheme of things.

SophoclesTheFox · 18/09/2018 12:23

What's the difference between a buffalo and a bison?

wait for it....

wait....

it's good....

You can't wash your hands in a buffalo Grin

No idea what this thread is about any more.

AngryAttackKittens · 18/09/2018 12:24

Oh god, are there furry trans-bisons? There probably are, aren't there?

LangCleg · 18/09/2018 12:26

None so blind as those who started the thread to pretend that they couldn't won't see.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 18/09/2018 12:31

If we stop all agrigulture right now and have mountains of dead bodies everywhere

Will that all be the fault of left wing women as well? Grin

This thread is hilariously nuts and I am comfortable to say that I can't understand at least half of what is being said Grin

NothingOnTellyAgain · 18/09/2018 12:33

If we stop agriculture everywhere right now the first people to die will be children, elderly, disabled, and women.

Women because the men will fight us for resources and win.

THEN there won't be enough women left and our position will be like the recent mad max fim but maybe with the breeding females not drifting around in somehow immaculately white floaty semi transparent robes Grin but shackled up in a terrible state and given to the most powerful men.

I for one can't wait this anarcho-wotsit lark sounds AWESOME!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 18/09/2018 12:35

Short story:

Women are TOTAL BASTARDS and if we want to have human children, elderly etc cared for properly we need to hand them all over to the men.

Yep sounds like an awesome plan!

Dragoncake · 18/09/2018 12:37

CarrotyO And people are generally fine with unfounded smears against women actively working to protect our sex based rights being propagated

Any chance that you could retract that unfounded smear upthread OP?

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:38

Oh god, are there furry trans-bisons? There probably are, aren't there?

You pointed out the use of the US term 'welfare cuts', and from there it all started to come together for me... I feel like the guy in 'a beautiful mind'...

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 18/09/2018 12:40

Nothing, someone better get over to the prepping threads and inform them of the coming madmax/huntergatherer dystopia...!!

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:41

If we stop agriculture everywhere right now the first people to die will be children, elderly, disabled, and women.

Women because the men will fight us for resources and win.

THEN there won't be enough women left and our position will be like the recent mad max fim but maybe with the breeding females not drifting around in somehow immaculately white floaty semi transparent robes grin but shackled up in a terrible state and given to the most powerful men.

I for one can't wait this anarcho-wotsit lark sounds AWESOME!

Well, yeah, the bottom line is that we will just have to make place for bisons. Better to get used to the idea now, I guess.

AngryAttackKittens · 18/09/2018 12:42

Well, if nothing else this thread has allowed deepwater and I to bond after a previous tiff.

Over laughing at perverts who think they're sexy bison, which is one of those "only on the internet" moments.

deepwatersolo · 18/09/2018 12:42

So true, Angry, so true...

AngryAttackKittens · 18/09/2018 12:43

But in a Mad Max dystopia what do they hunt? The wild Harleys?

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