What if there had been a Savile thread back in the day...

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AIBU to think Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG is a paedophile sexual predator?
He didn’t exactly deny it when questioned by Lynn Barber in 1990. He more or less evaded the question when asked by Louis Theroux in 2000. In 2007, the Irish journalist Orla Barry asked him about rumours of paedophilia and sexual assault and he responded “what rumours?”. Also in 2007 he was investigated for allegations of sexual assault in an approved school for girls. In 2008 he started legal proceedings against the Sun for linking him to aggregations of sexual assault in Jersey, which he claimed he had never visited, though photographic evidence showed otherwise.
AI also BU to suggest that there is a wholesale cover up going on at the highest levels of the establishment, including within the police and the BBC, to protect Savile and people like him, who hide in plain sight and simply deny and misdirect, and that the people who suffer are women and girls, especially those who are vulnerable and easy to exploit?

Having said that, my uncle worked in the media so may well have known through that and told her.

I remember back in 1996 there were rumors about him and necrophilia. Then he appeared on TV with a ring made from a glass eye that he had (allegedly) stolen from a corpse.

I brought this up in a thread on here about 10 years ago and got slated for it. Fair enough.

I learn what necrophiliacs do from a rumor about him

This was long before Internet forums. We have family in Leeds but I don’t think it was from them gossip has always got around but that is all it was

But many people did accept he was pervy and did have wondering hands - men with wondering hands were often laughed about and even pitied because there probably weren’t married or their wives didn’t give them enough attention or didn’t understand boundaries

I saw his name mention often on here before it was all published and I think the awfulness of what he did people just didn’t but want to accept until they could not longer deny he was innocent

I remember rumours on far left forums I used to be a member of back in the early 90s but even those quickly got cracked down on by mods such was the legal fear.

One of the novellas in Irvine Welsh's Ecstasy has a charity fundraiser who's into necrophilia (blackmails the pathologist at the local hospital where he's on the board, so he can get access to corpses). It was widely known at the time of publication that it was a thinly disguised portrait of Savile. The book was published in 1996.

I think that there are probably pedophiles in the entertainment industry this very day who are being covered up for.

Before the Savile scandal broke I do remember people on mn saying he was more sinister than people knew. It turns out he was a procurer if children for other pedophiles like Ted Heath.

Back in time, when I was young and beautiful I was one of a group of pretty faces for the BBC.
Both make and female.

We were meeters/greeters all aged around 16-20 looked younger though.
If we were at the stone doughnut (television centre) and Saville or Jonathon king was due, we'd be shipped to Elstree.

Or vice versa.

I wonder if the Speaker Bercow would have allowed an Urgent question in Parliament about it?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3365319-new-kirkup-article-about-bercow-s-refusal-to-let-mps-discuss-karen-white

David Walliams’ misogynistic book writing for kids doesn’t surprise me at all. You can see it in the Little Britain humour.

Around the time of Jonathan Kings trial The Sun or The Mirror headline articles of other celebs that they were aware of being peadophiles but couldn’t publish their names

It didn’t take that much working out they were mainly discussing Savile

People knew about Savile back in the day even if only by rumour. Some didn't do anything about it even when they were in very responsible and respected positions later on. He could have been in court before he died.

I'm of the generation that saw him in endless BBC shows. I never warmed to him as a presenter but never had any gut feelings about him either nor did anyone I know. I think he had a big proportion of the viewing public fooled and any thread suggesting there was anything off about him would have been pulled promptly. He was expert and ruthless in protecting his perverted interests.

Lots of cover ups.
Rotherham being one.
Cyril Smith was another. I know for absolute fact that when the truth came out that very high ranking officials "forced" those trying to discover the truth to stop all investigations.
He was a vile paedophile.

Something tells me the posts about certain children's presenters are not going to be long standing.

I agree Hen, I’ve reported it. It wasn’t fair. It was re the “hints” someone else gave earlier.

womanintrousers I remember some of your previous posts on JS,, I know you worry people have had enough of hearing but there are new lurkers on here every day and I think it's hugely important to see previous victims of failures of safeguarding as real people so I would urge you to continue to share that experience, it helps keep us focussed on what's at stake

Lots of posters would be telling the OP that they are a pearl clutching prude and there's nothing to worry about.

We only know about the child abusers and rapists at the BBC who got caught.

It defies belief, to imagine that the length and depth of cover-up that went into Savile et al, has all been uncovered and rooted out. In order to be able to operate with such impunity for so long, there must have been many, many people at the BBC and related institutions, who had both the power and they sympathy with Savile's aims, to enable him. It is not reasonable to imagine that they've all left the BBC since then or that they're unable to pull the strings they pulled then.

There is a reason that David Challenor, the Greens and Karen White have not been properly reported by the BBC.

Urgh... I just spotted this from the (pre-scandal) news piece on his funeral. Doesn't read the same now:

Another mourner, in a bright red coat which Savile would have envied, said that it was surprising that the Infirmary used pre-med relaxing injections before operations, on days when Savile was doing his voluntary stint. She said: "The patients loved it when it was Jimmy wheeling them to the theatre. He got them ready, just on that short journey on the trolley."

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2011/nov/09/jimmy-savile-life-epic-giving

A horrifying thought has just struck me in connection with that article, Only. If Savile went to mass every week, he will have also gone to confession regularly - and it strikes me as in keeping with his character (the deliberately creepy persona to "hide in plain sight" by being outrageous) that he might well have told the truth in the confessional - because he would get off on the idea of telling someone who then couldn't tell anyone else. I think it's more than possible that there were priests present at that "wasn't he a lovely guy" memorial service who knew exactly what he'd been up to.