Are there ANY political parties that stand for women?

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I am a woman. I am a woman who feels threatened by men invading private spaces, I am worried for my young daughters being exposed to all this brainwashing woke shite, I'm worried for the future of women and society as a whole. Who will stand for me politically as a woman? I was briefly a labour supporter after a late in life interest in politics but don't feel I can support a party who don't support me and my rights as a woman. I am politically homeless now and am angry that my right to vote is negated by the lack of a party who will stand for women. Is there a party out there that's prepared to stand up for women, stand up against the brainwashing, stand up against the oppression of women, stand up against a society that's going backwards? Is there a party who is brave enough to tackle the issues head on and not be afraid to call out the misogynists who now have a new stick with which to beat us?

You are welcome. It had to be explained to me about 5 times at conference so I don't blame you for being confused.

I think the way I see it is this political home thingy has got to be a Grand Designs self build rather than a finding your perfect home from the estate agent's window.

Politically homeless here too.
I can only hope the WEP sort themselves out.
There is nothing that would ever persuade me to vote UKIP and there is no way I'm voting Tory either.

S’ok - it’s a confusing situation! Thankyou for the apology. It did hit a nerve.

PamAyres there wasn’t a pro-woman policy to be debated. It was a pro legal self-ID policy on the agenda, as I explained upthread.

Cwenthryth - I was referring to an amendment to the motion. Apologies for my short-cut phrase. The amendment had to be stopped because WEP and Cherry Morgan saw that it would NOT endorse the view that transwomen were women.

A cunning plan was hatched to scupper the motion and amendment.

After reading Cherry Morgan's triumphant blog post, I'm left with a feeling that delegates were 'played' .

I have doubts about the the honesty and intergrity of WEP now. I thought that WEP would do politics differently. Hey ho!

The amendment had to be stopped because WEP and Cherry Morgan saw that it would NOT endorse the view that transwomen were women.

Were you actually at the conference?

Mumsnet? Here's Justine Roberts having to defend our right to speak about childbirth, last night on Newsnight.
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The proposer of the amendment voted for the emergency motion as well, and worked with the whole group of us co-ordinating gender critical efforts, if that helps you read the room better. If you weren’t at the conference and weren’t privy to the conversations being had between individuals as well as speeches being made - it might be good if you listen to those of us that were there trying to explain how things happened. The only people that wanted the votes to happen at conference wanted the party to be forced into taking a position without 98% of members having a say. Cheryl Morgan opposed that for different reasons than we GC women did, but I don’t mind agreeing with opponents on occasion!

WarmWishes the results of Cambridge by Election are...drum roll...Labour hold. Good job as Brown (Lib Dem) needs to explain the breach of Camb City council policy, in a meeting sometime in October. Not sure Brown will be party to those discussions but it's their mess. Sorry meant to put link
democracy.cambridge.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?ID=210&RPID=54119216

Were you actually at the conference?

No I wasn't. And that's the point really. I'm a woman looking for a political party, not a member, but considering membership. My impression is that there was a fudge on this particular matter. The clearest piece of evidence that informs that impression comes from Cheryl Morgan. How can I overlook what they say, when it's in black and white?

Unless, of course, WEP Conferences always put out every single piece of policy and every amendment to the membership? Is there a membership referendum every time policy is debated?

As an aside, I see that Mr Corbyn supporters are looking at the options to scupper a motion for the People Vote at the Labour Conference. It's being reported that one option will be to have a "special debate" with no vote at the end. Business as usual politics, behind closed doors.

The clearest piece of evidence that informs that impression comes from Cheryl Morgan. How can I overlook what they say, when it's in black and white?

You seem to be overlooking what we’re saying in black & white quite cheerfully, so I can’t help you with that one.

Although if you’re interested in the people’s vote on Brexit, WEP members voted overwhelmingly to support one.

@theOtherPamAyres of course Cheryl will write a positive spin on what happened. Remember she also described us as anti-trans which is a lie and a misrepresentation of the gender critical feminists at the conference.

All the GC speakers emphasised their support for trans people while asking questions and raising concerns over the GRA consultation.

I don't recognise other aspects of her account either but whatever.

I was there. @Cwenthryth was there. I wrote a massive thread on the conference if you want to read it. I and others were ready to walk away from WEP if we felt it was going to pass motions that would harm women but the opposite happened.

Thanks for being more reasonable and less snippy than me today, Rhymes, I might need to step away from the internet for a bit. I think we all know how frustrating things can be at times.

Although I do feel politically homeless (mentioned upthread and recently resigned from the green party), I have only just joined the WEP following the reports of the really insightful and interesting talks from their party and actual GC discussions. Thanks to posters such as Cwenthryth and RhymesWithOrange who have reported back. I wish I had gone.

When this does go to vote in the WEP, I want to have the chance to vote against self-ID. If self-ID goes through, then I will rethink my membership.

Are there ANY political parties that stand for women?
Nope because only a pen is stunning and brave.

The WEP should have decided who it was representing at its formation stage
Its really strange but trans women often act more like men. They are also, or some of them, like moths round a flame as soon as a group has woman in its title
The upshot of this is that groups for women who allow trans women in then become trans focussed and not woman focussed
We are this time and again. Just look at how much the lovely Lily Madigan does for women

Welcome @MnerXX that's the spirit.

TBF many many feminists didn't think through the implications of the 2005 GRA. Maybe WEP should have been better but my view is (a) everyone makes mistakes and (b) it's not too late to change.

OK, so I've joined WEP and volunteered for my branch team.
@Rhymeswith and @Cwenth did a very good job and persuaded me

Womens' causes will never be centred in the existing political parties. I give up on them. I'm going to help build an alternative, knowing that the project may take years and years.

(Muses to herself )
In the Green party, didn't we put up "paper candidates" in constituencies where we couldn't afford to campaign in a solid Lab/Con seat?

Yes we did.

Your name appeared on the ballot paper, but you didn't have to do anything else during the elections - the purpose was to give a choice to green voters and those who felt "None of the above".

That's right, Pam

Didn't you used to have nightmares about suddenly ending up in Parliament or on the local council, because voters turned against the main parties and there was a head of steam for "None of the Above"

Yes I did, Otherpam, yes I did.

Would you consider being a paper candidate for WEP, otherPam?
Yes, I would.

Oh shite, her come those nightmares again

The WEP should have decided who it was representing at its formation stage
They did, there were lively discussions. Women who objected lost.

Those of you who joined or re-joined WEP - may I ask how it's going? Have you found a good home in your local branch or wherever you joined?

Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but anarchism seems very appealing. Yes, I have read about it; not necessarily as violent as is claimed. On a positive note, I found some nice carpet in a skip. Does anyone want some for their cardboard box?

As you were but I find it genuinely baffling that there are people are there who nonetheless label Sophie Walker's fine fence-sitting as making WEP a TERF-led party (scroll down):

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