Are there ANY political parties that stand for women?

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I am a woman. I am a woman who feels threatened by men invading private spaces, I am worried for my young daughters being exposed to all this brainwashing woke shite, I'm worried for the future of women and society as a whole. Who will stand for me politically as a woman? I was briefly a labour supporter after a late in life interest in politics but don't feel I can support a party who don't support me and my rights as a woman. I am politically homeless now and am angry that my right to vote is negated by the lack of a party who will stand for women. Is there a party out there that's prepared to stand up for women, stand up against the brainwashing, stand up against the oppression of women, stand up against a society that's going backwards? Is there a party who is brave enough to tackle the issues head on and not be afraid to call out the misogynists who now have a new stick with which to beat us?

Cwenthryth I heard similar about healthy open honest debate but Cheryl Morgan was bragging on twitter about how her and Sophie Walker had managed to block a vote on whether trans women are women. It's utter bollocks discussing it if they're blocking votes. Bit like no-platforming.
I am also politically homeless. Natural socialist but no one to vote for!

arranfan I think Standing for Women is run by posieparker. They are a campaign group rather than political party. I have bought stickers & am awaiting my t-shirt with the dictionary definition of woman. Can't wait to wear it

Joining in - reserve me a space in the cardboard box. If I hadn't just started a new job I'm be looking into local politics. At least we are all the in same boat/box.

Just posted my resignation and reasons on our local Labour discussion board. This is awaiting a mod to allow it through. Never in a month of Sundays.

failingatlife - Thank you. That makes sense!

Wife just tells me she came across a woman ushering a bloke out of the women's toilet at Whitworth Art Gallery yesterday. He didn't fight it. Just trying it on. FFS

@Yvaine1 I need to do the same, how did you word it if you don't mind me asking?

Cheryl Morgan was bragging on twitter about how her and Sophie Walker had managed to block a vote on whether trans women are women.

This isn’t true.

There was a GRA motion due to be debated at conference on supporting legal self-ID (and recognition of NB people). This had been proposed and supported by members - many of which are active in a handful of London branches as far as I could tell. None of whom are trans. An amendment was added by Magda Devas - amendments cannot alter the intention of a motion, so the best she could do was add language acknowledging the difference between biological women and transwomen and supporting upholding single sex spaces (sorry not got it to hand so paraphrasing).

Sophie Walker then tabled an emergency motion to allow ‘special debates’ at conference - meaning we could debate but not be rushed to vote at conference rather take the issue to the wider membership following conference. In her speech putting this forward she urged it not to be taken as a proxy motion on GRA. But of course it was/is. GC members were in favour of this motion as it meant conference couldn’t sneakily vote to approve legal self-ID, and personally I was in favour as I think this is too big an issue to be quickly decided at conference, and every member should have a chance to have her voice heard. Cheryl Morgan also spoke for the emergency motion, stating reasons as no trans people had been consulted in drafting the pro self-ID motion (remember it was a member’s motion, we all have the right to raise one) and few trans members were able to get to conference.

The emergency motion passed, and was then applied to the GRA motion meaning no vote would be take at conference, debate was held and then the issue will be taken to the wider membership. ‘Known’ GC members who spoke against self-ID included Karen Ingala Smith and David Lewis (the Woman Wednesday guy).

So Cheryl’s tweet (Pleased to report that Sophie & I have won the first big vote of the day. We will not be railroaded into taking a vote on whether trans women are women. We will have discussions on trans issues respectfully, and with trans members involved.) was about that, it was about Sophie’s emergency motion passing. I have no idea if Cheryl worked with Sophie on the motion, as I mentioned it was widely supported by GC members too. I can say that Sophie has been very warmly supportive of us GC members. She sought people out to thank them personally for speaking and hugged several of us.

Just said I had resigned today. That me and the Party had diverged so much and specifically on these 4 grounds. One may have been enough and I didn't wish a competition in my head for The Worst.

Yeah I cancelled my membership too, they keep calling. Cancelled it via the bank and still keep calling! Really awkward times too plus I struggle to word things verbally in a sensible and articulate manner whenever I have spoken to them so fed up of speaking to them!

WEP need to be run by women for women
They don't even know what a woman is and have no insight at all into WC women's lives
Their first aim was to campaign for men to be allowed to stay on maternity wards
They are a joke and a disgrace to women

Cwenthryth

That is not how Cheryl represented it on her Twitter feed and the responses were TRA in tone

Can someone link to Standing For Women as nothing was coming up on a google search apart from some sort of shewee device and a defunct website called standingwomen

www.standingforwomen.com/background

Thanks!
Why is the men's sized T-shirt £10 and the woman's one £15 I wonder?

bzzbeebzz I’m aware. But my post is what actually happened at conference, I was present throughout. @RhymesWithOrange is another MNer WEPer who was there hopefully she can confirm my description is accurate.

FesteringCarbuncle WEP is not intersectional enough - yet - and very aware of it and seeking to improve that. Sophie Walker spoke about that at one of the sessions. I am not WC but from what I experienced at conference policies and motions were very much about all women. The men on maternity wards thing only ever gets mentioned on here, tbh, AFAIK it was a crowd sourced policy in the very early development of the party. It does not reflect where the party is now and I do not believe is a current policy. Things just passed at conference include a policy of scrapping UC for example, supporting a people’s vote on Brexit (because women will be the worst hit), equal healthcare policy. Emphasis on care being an investment not a cost. Loads of stuff that is about all women.

Thanks for the mention @Cwenthryth . As you say I was at the conference, I heard Cheryl Morgan speak and I don't recognise their description of the discussion (it wasn't a debate as there was no vote). They are coming from a particular position so it's not an objective description.

Sophie Walker and others managed things so that there wasn't a vote on GRA at conference which was the right thing to do.

WEP isn't perfect. No party is. But it's the closest at this time. I met amazing women at the conference, from women who stood on the picket lines at Dagenham in the original fight for equal pay right through to young 'uns who are fighting doggedly for vulnerable women and girls.

I don't like some of the policies - like men on maternity wards. But ask yourself this. Do you have a better chance of being heard by WEP (membership c.45k) or the others?

If you don't like what WEP are doing then join and change it!

Did the WEP agree with the transgender lobbyists to kill a motion and prevent a pro-woman policy being debated?

The smoking gun is here:
www.cheryl-morgan.com/?p=25702

Excerpt: ^So we had a situation where Sophie didn’t want a vote on the main motion, and I didn’t want a vote on the amendment. Both of us could see that a lot of members would probably end up voting without fully understanding the issues. Sophie came up with the idea that World Science Fiction Society members will recognise as a version of Committee of the Whole. Instead of debating the motion, we would simply have a discussion around the issue, with no vote.

Unfortunately Sophie chose to call this a “Special Debate”, which lead some trans people to assume that she was calling for a debate on whether trans women are women. In fact she was doing just the opposite: saving us from voting on an amendment that would have been taken as decision on whether trans women are women^

Seems pretty clear to me.

Cwenthryth
I don't really get it. It seems to me that the trans faction plus supporters or trans advocates or whatever they call themselves wanted to block a vote on this because they were worried that there might be enough people who have the honesty to admit that trans women are not women.

Respectful debate is all well and good but this utter sack of bollocksing shite needs clearing up ASAP!

The GRA is important. It is disingenuous to suggest that it doesn't really matter.
Peel the scales from your eyes.

In answer to the original question. No. It seems to me that there aren't any political parties which stand for women. NOTHING!!! WTAF is going on?!!!!

NotZen it’s also disingenuous to suggest that I think the GRA doesn’t really matter - no one said that - or am blinkered. That’s just plain rude really.

PamAyres there wasn’t a pro-woman policy to be debated. It was a pro legal self-ID policy on the agenda, as I explained upthread.

@NotZenEnough I think that if there had been a vote then it would have supported the motion. Obviously I can't say for sure.

Sophie argued that some issues (not just GRA) were too important to be decided by the small number of people who can/do attend conference.

Stopping a vote was a good thing.

Well we all know the Lib Dem's don't care about women. Talking of which, it is the Cambridge by - election today. The seat which Ann Sinnott left vacant. Public Goat/Sarah Brown/suckmyformaldehydeballs is obviously going for it.

Anyone know when the results would be announced?

Cwenthryth sorry. Just re-read. Not sure where I got that from. Think I'm ODing on internet!

Rhymeswith thank you. This is good. Feel so frustrated. New to all this so thanks for clarification
I want to vote and be politically active but have nowhere to go!