Literal Violence

[FloralBunting]

Just to highlight the importance of proper pronoun usage, and the fact that using a pronoun which someone feels is not acceptable is indeed connected to literal violence.

www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/25/hr-confidential-an-employee-threatened-a-co-worker-at-knifepoint.html?__twitter_impression=true

I hope we can all take away something useful from this today.

The useful thing I take away is that you shouldn't threaten co-workers with a knife if they do something you don't like.

I am guessing though I was supposed to take away something else.

Another thing might be if you have a grievance take it through the proper channels before you get to the point of picking a knife up and threatening a co worker.

People are only human and if someone looks and sounds like a man you will instinctively use a male pronoun.

I take away from this further confirmation that trans m to f think they are entitled to be physically threatening and violent to a woman who doesn’t do what they tell them to do.

She also said it's unfair that she felt unsafe in her workplace

"unsafe"?

Get a fucking grip.

Is this a threat thread?

It's also interesting how women frequently face sexist insults and rarely resort to this.

Someone I work with keeps misnaming me, calling me something slightly different to my actual personal name even though I've reminded her before. Guess I should just draw a knife on the bitch?

Are we taking away if you call a man a man they will literally cut you up?

I'm not sure why people would use pronouns in the presence of the person they are referring to. Surely that's a little rude.

I take away from this that if you misgender somebody, they may pick up a knife and threaten you. I don't think most trans people would do this, but obviously it could happen. And people around you will see their point of view to some extent, because they've had a hard life. So even if the thing you do to provoke the violence is accidental and actually no physical threat to the other person, if it causes them psychological distress, people will see their point of view and understand why they couldn't control their temper and use a more reasonable course of action to make their point. So be careful what you say and try not to upset them.

So pretty much how male violence is generally treated in our society. It surprises me that all the people who think they're breaking the mould and creating something new in society don't see how much of this is just old fashioned sexist behaviour.

The take home message is clearly that a person who claims something amounts to literal violence can always easily prove by pulling a knife in response.

Or something like that.

make that can always easily prove it

But yeah, I agree with SnuggyBuggy. Imagine we would pull knives every time someone calls us bitch or cunt or old hag or TERF (all slurs by nature, contrary to the pronouns he/him, btw). Hey, maybe that is why women are oppressed, because we haven't done that so far?

I take from it that misgendering somebody (like deadnaming) trumps all protection and safeguarding of women (and children of course).

I am forever grateful for my mother indoctrinating me as a child with "who's she? The cat's mother?"

Looks like I dodged a bullet (or knife), thanks mum.

SnuggyBuggy

People are only human and if someone looks and sounds like a man you will instinctively use a male pronoun.

TBH I wouldn't believe a word of the other employee's story. I think she was being a shit on purpose, and winding up her co-worker. Of course the knife incident was wrong, but personally I'd be careful about needling anyone who had a knife in their hand.

I can see that employee 'innocently' making remarks if one of her co-workers wore a bad wig, or dressed too young for their age, or did anything that could be a focus for subtle bullying.

Yep juells the bitch was obviously asking for it.

I'd be careful about needling anyone who had a knife in their hand.

Rule of thumb: If coworkers know that someone is carrying a knife at work, said person won't work there any longer. So your point is pointless.

How very ladylike.

My takeaway is don't hire people so unstable that they'd threaten someone with a knife over a pronoun.

I assume the OP is being ironic.

Am glad they sacked the employee who threatened another employee with a knife. A bit gobsmacked by the editor's note at the end:

Editor's note: The onus is on the employer to create a safe work environment for transgender employees, says Kayley Whalen, an activist at the National LGBTQ Task Force. If a transgender employee feels mistreated, Whalen recommends that they document the harassment, notify HR and pursue legal action if the behavior continues.

The lesson?

Male person demonstrates male violence?

Was that it?

Did I get it right?

I read this very carefully and took away a lot of learning which I immediately put into practice.

A woman at the supermarket called me an elderly woman, so I ran her over several times with my trolley and then smacked her in the head with a (family size) jar of gherkins.

Then the post office person called me Mrs instead of Ms, so I used a letter opener to stab them in the hand several times.

And then when a random man in the street called me ugly, I kidnapped him and staked him out over a wasp nest.

I can't stand people using incorrect descriptors - it's so violent.

^ @DancelikeEmmaGoldman Brave and stunning

/sarcasm

I worked with soneone for 10 years that called me the wrong name every single day despite receiving multiple emails with my name on them every day (eg Janet instead of Jane). I found it hilarious for some reason (even though he was a misogynist prick who couldnt be bothered to remember my name as I was only a woman), as did my colleagues, as it made him look like an idiot. I guess I should have stabbed him instead.