R4 show about identity politics on right now

[RitaFairclough]

It’s very good. I recommend listening. It’s morality in the 21st century.

Thanks :) Just put it on, on my computer:

www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm

Just Come back to listen to it properly and see if there was a thread. Really, really good listen. Talks about how the left goes so far left that it develops "purity laws" or tribal thinking, plus witch hunts etc.

And especially happening to women apparently!

I caught this on school run this morning - it was very good.

It describes the whole situation perfectly, I thought.

I paraphrase, but the bit about the student politics.

"For a lot of young students it has become ok to punch nazis. But those same young people are calling anyone who disagrees with them fascists and nazis. This is the problem, that's an awful lot of potential violence."

Exactly what is happening to so-called 'TERFS' right now.

Good to hear students at Manchester university discussing how this way of thinking was ultimately dangerous and could create echo chambers.

Mn FWR is accused of being an echo chamber, however it's not. It's just that the debate is rigorous and people on the opposite side tend not to stay / people, mainly women, find them selves agreeing with what's being mainly discussed here.

I think it's important to retain and welcome opposing views here, debate and discuss respectfully in order to keep discussion alive and moving forward. I suppose it's where mnhq intervene that's complicated.

Good to hear - I was surprised just how many people accepted it was perfectly fine to punch 'Nazis' when that whole Richard Spencer thing came out (and that's before you get on to the problem of who defines what a 'Nazi' is - imagine if it was down to the likes of OJ or 'literal Communist' Ash Sarkar).

Yesterday’s part 1 was good too, worth a listen.

Does anyone know which episode it was?

There are 15, many of em sound interesting

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06jxvm9/episodes/downloads

Looks like it was Is Society a Myth this morning
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bh7jkp/broadcasts/2018/09

Am a couple of minutes in - this is bloody terrific