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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

It will never happen - resource thread.

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MipMipMip · 27/08/2018 18:24

I'm hoping Rowantrees will be a contributor on here! This is basically a thread to keep together stories of all the things that we have been told will never happen. Please put what the item is about as well as a link for clarity.

Thanks.

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SunsetBeetch · 04/11/2019 06:46

twitter.com/esjayXX/status/1191114644863225861?s=19

"Anyone using Denmark as an example of self ID working - this thread ⤴️⤵️

After 10 years, mixed sex prisons are returning to single sex after multiple assaults and rapes of women. t.co/w1PJ3fyYS6 "

SunsetBeetch · 05/11/2019 07:03

In the replies to a twitter thread on M&S changing rooms, meet "Jax The Panty Guy".

"Exactly, Just because I am trying on panties in the fitting room next to them or their daughters it's not like we in same room t.co/hFwX7qTRN0 "

SunsetBeetch · 05/11/2019 08:14

Good thread:

"I’ve started making little graphics using crimes from various gender critical sources. I find these are better to share around because they DO get read, whereas a lot of times people don’t actually click and open links to read - especially not trans people/their handmaidens. t.co/dGzAPz0Cqd "

GrinitchSpinach · 05/11/2019 15:44

Thanks for keeping this updated, Sunset. Important thread.

WitchfinderGeneralHarrumph · 05/11/2019 16:46

Archive EVERYTHING!

SunsetBeetch · 06/11/2019 07:55

"Incident at Grand Valley institution on October 30th 2018. Female was assaulted by trans inmate and taken to the sexual assault centre in St. Mary's Hospital. Female was then placed in Max security. Trying to get hospital/CSC records right now."

twitter.com/Mason134211f/status/1191193834459422722?s=19

This incident happened to an indigenous woman who has an extensive history of trauma.

twitter.com/Mason134211f/status/1191855342403108867?s=19

SunsetBeetch · 06/11/2019 07:58

The above continued...

"Any info on what happened with attacker?"

"They go to seg for a few days then come back out on compound or get transferred. This person has been released to a female halfway house."

twitter.com/Mason134211f/status/1191339458265829377?s=19

"The attacker is now in a female halfway house? Is that what you're saying?"

"Yes they have been released."

SunsetBeetch · 08/11/2019 11:07

twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1192691535479025664?s=19

"This sex offender has been court ordered not to enter any public swimming pool or leisure centre or gym for 5 years. But @marksandspencer and @Debenhams would let him in female changing rooms. Watch out for him when buying your bras. t.co/gFdP9wCvpI "

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/swimming-baths-pervert-who-filmed-17202650.amp?__twitter_impression=true

SunsetBeetch · 09/11/2019 18:31

North Wales Police allows rapists to record gender as female

twitter.com/sheffieldlamby/status/1189851147735052288?s=19

SunsetBeetch · 10/11/2019 21:45

twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/1193556608170758146?s=19

".@wagamama_uk toilet review
Pros: women only & gender neutral; sanitary bins in all loos; enclosed cubicles with sinks.
Cons: walking in on a man who didn’t lock the door wtf, men?? I’ve heard this happening far too often what is the deal? t.co/Yo5VCKMxUa "

SunsetBeetch · 12/11/2019 13:04

Chilling thread from Karen Ingala Smith of the Count Dead Women project (who has of course been called a terf numerous times):

twitter.com/K_IngalaSmith/status/1193856015097368576?s=19

There’s a story breaking today about a 28-year-old woman and a man being found dead in a women’s refuge in Moseley, B’ham on Saturday.
Obviously their deaths are the most important thing, but, I am pretty certain that this did not occur in a specialist woman-led refuge.

If the reports are correct that it is accommodation run by Trident Reach, then that isn't a specialist women's refuge provider.
If Trident Reach's website is up to date, there are more men called John in their Senior Management Team than there are women (2/5 v 1/5).

If Trident Reach's website is up to date, 3 out of 9 of their board of trustees are women. None (woman or man) identify specialist knowledge of men's violence against women in their biogs.

Responsibility for domestic homicide lies with the perpetrator and a killing could happen in a specialist refuge.
But if services for women subjected to MVAW are seen as business opps, rather than primarily motivated by wishing to free women of violence, practices are different

I am sick of the specialist expertise of woman-led organisations providing services for women being disregarded.
I'm sick of us being expected to provide lowest cost services for highest numbers.
I'm sick of us being seen as 'the difficult one' in strategic partnerships.

I am most of all sick of women at known risk of men's violence and/or with other vulnerabilities being shoved in accommodation or towards services where we know there are inherent risks.

If ‘violence against women services’ are part of a charity’s business strategy, rather than their strategic aims being about supporting women/children (men even, if you must) and/or ending/reducing domestic and sexual violence, I wish they’d butt out and do something else.

SunsetBeetch · 12/11/2019 13:10

Comments from someone who used to work for them:

It did not. I worked there and can assure this org have no perception or interest in managing risk or investing in staff. I said you will find yourselves involved in a dhr. I left as I could not condone it yet @BhamCityCouncil have awarded them a contract to deliver refuges!

twitter.com/hagrat1/status/1193861153820164096?s=19
The current head of has LD background so doubt it & I know about their poor practices. doubt it will be an honest critical reflection for lessons learned. Start by checking safety plans, security (fencing, cctv, & lack of secure entry system), staff rota and training.

twitter.com/hagrat1/status/1193865661468041217?s=19

They have one senior woman as a manager and have appalling governance. Their chief exec (Jon) is a waste of space! Appalling practices across the org. I hope this comes out in the DHR.

twitter.com/hagrat1/status/1193861500995342336?s=19

@jessphillips can you please ask @BhamCityCouncil why they re commissioned trident for da services when they had been warned of their appalling practices as were trident board members??

twitter.com/hagrat1/status/1193862324773359616?s=19

TheChampagneGalop · 12/11/2019 18:56

From Sweden: A male murderer who killed and dismembered his girlfriend, began to identify as a woman in prison, and is now being moved to a women's prison.
twitter.com/kvinnopakten/status/1194167257380855808

Ereshkigal · 12/11/2019 19:10

FFS.

TheChampagneGalop · 12/11/2019 19:41

If someone is suffering from too low blood pressure, read this Google translated article about the murderer:
translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fnyheter%2Fgjorde-konskorrigering-i-fangelset-nu-flyttas-hon-till-kvinnoanstalt%2F

TheChampagneGalop · 13/11/2019 18:45

It wasn't clear in that article I posted so I'll add: The only change Johansson has done so far is to take estrogen, no surgery. This means a fully intact male prisoner, who while still identifying as male stabbed his girlfriend to death, has now been moved to a woman's prison in order to feel more comfortable.

SunsetBeetch · 14/11/2019 17:36

twitter.com/Sseltse/status/1194987547002359813?s=19

Bruce Hensel, Former NBC chief medical correspondent, and prominent trans rights campaigner arrested for asking 9-year-old for sexually explicit photos!

#inplainsght #safeguarding #brucehensel t.co/3mqUaFn478

SunsetBeetch · 14/11/2019 17:36

Wow Champagne that's shocking.

SunsetBeetch · 14/11/2019 20:05

Women Are Human have written about Johansson:

Transgender-Identified Man Who Killed & Dismembered His Ex-Girlfriend Wins Transfer to Women’s Prison: Kim Marie (né Kristoffer) Johansson t.co/mHbDI3XJ8Y via @womenarehuman

SunsetBeetch · 17/11/2019 18:51

Michigan Planet Fitness case is going back to court: when she signed up she was NOT told biological men would be allowed in women’s private restrooms. Then they checked the trans person’s FB page and obvious sexual deviant 🤦‍♀️
t.co/UioatwFaIE

twitter.com/BarbarianBabes/status/1196112504151248903?s=19