Green Party statement

[Destinysdaughter]

Sorry it’s so tiny, I screenshotted it on my phone from Twitter! It’s a bit mealy mouthed...

A cynical person might think that a five day injunction would be very useful in tidying up the internet

There has been a lot of tidying up going on. FB pages locked. Twitter accounts locked. News stories removed from the Coventry local paper...

littlbrowndog

Nopes lass I can’t find it on any bbc site that is what I was trying to say

Sorry, yes I agree - local news reporting is often struggling to find news. Pretty amazing that Challenor was in the news only a couple of years ago because he saw a police car being driven very fast. (Yes really- that was a reported story)

I have complained about The Guardian et al. I'm considering sending thanks to The Sun et al.

How was he able to keep an arrest, being charged & a trial so secret ?

I thought one reason for anonymity for the victim, but not the accused, was to give other victims the chance to come forward.

He appeared in the local rag (at least) more than your average bod. He held positions (scouts, gymnastics club) which gave him access to children. He was related to (and living with ?) somebody often in the national press, and the pair of the campaigned on a topic that raises safeguarding concerns,

Surely this is exactly the sort of case that should be reported upon locally once a person is charged, because there could be other victims out there. Yet... big silence.

I'm not sure how it works usually, do the coppers tip off the press, or is there a weekly summing up of cases of the charged now on the docket ?

Thanks Lysistrata, I think the DBS is different from the Garda checking we have here. Here it seems to be a simpler - you have a conviction or you don't - system.

I think our system is a little unfair on people who may have smoked a joint as a teenager or "forgotten" to pay some fines, but the alternative of allowing violent offenders to through the net is very much worse, it seems to me.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets - Fucking hell

animal cruelty

But it’s just certain newsoutlets that are keeping this secret

Like bbc guardian times

Man, the Greens should hire this person next time they are up shit creek with no paddle and a big hole in the bottom of the boat.

They did the slam dunk job that the Greens utterly failed to do.

Twitter
twitter.com/leaningleft46/status/1033438143113043969?s=21

CertainHalfDesertedStreets - Fucking hell shock

Yeah. It's just kids though so...

He seems to have had a Facebook account discussing his innocence, too.

I honestly don't believe this investigation can't have been well-known within the local Green Party.

@CesiraAndEnrico police can only put out a press release if you have a reasonable belief that there are other victims. They also can't put out a press release if it may identify the victim.

RE DBS checks
It is very much up to the individual organisation - there's no central authority.
Surely this is a huge safeguarding problem?? Particularly in smaller and more rural areas, people ( Men In Charge) tend to know each other, vouch for each other play golf together etc. There needs to be a central, neutral authority monitoring this sort of stuff, surely?

Cerisa, there used to be courtroom journalists going into court every day, and talking to the police about cases, listening to hearings, and reporting on them, They would build a relationship with the police, and the court staff and get tips offs on the ones to cover.

My lovely friend used to do this job, and laments the decline of local news now. It's pretty hit and miss now - fewer local journalists, fewer local papers, local news has hit by the internet and social media. Things do slip by now.

There is no excuse for this slipping by the BBC, and other outlets, though

CesiraAndEnrico, it all comes back to my cynical opinion that he thought he could bulldoze his way through it, and come out as "innocent" and "falsely accused" as so many rapists and paedophiles do.

The burden of proof is so high that it's quite frankly a miracle that he was convicted at all. Again, I might be cynical, but I bet had he not taken photographs he would have got away with it.

And had he been found "innocent" (as all non-guilty people claim to be ), he would have carried on. The accusations of dressing up wouldn't have come to light, the whole case would have been hidden from the media in the interests of the child, as so many cases are. No-one would ever have found out.

Coventry local news reported on the case, and some National outlets have picked up the story - but nobody has made the connection between it and the Green Party - either deliberately, or because of injunctions.

That GCWoman's tweet is the statement they should have released.

Shameful they haven't.

I'm furious about the silence - complicity - of the Left leaning press and commentariat on this.

If a prominent politico had misgendered someone, they'd have been forcing resignations and statements by now.

FFS

Wow just wow that twitter thread is brilliant

That’s exactly what the green part should have said

This is why I admire so much girls like the NI rugby rape victim. In that case, she gave up her anonymity so that details could be published, and although the men were found not guilty we all know what they did . Children can't choose to give up their anonymity; had the evidence been a little less strong David Challenor would be carrying on, a pillar of the community, an untouchable, like so many others.

To be jailed for animal cruelty must be quite unusual so have to assume it was significant not ‘just’ neglect iyswim. Which I agree is therefore a huge red flag for further abuses.
The Scouts and other organisations he was involved with need to be reviewing their safeguarding. Am I right that their child AC had lobbied The Scouts about allowing transboys in?
There are so many questions needing answers here.

But why on Earth is no one in the media mentioning the Green Party. It is hugely relevant and of public interest that a party member who was making proposals at their recent conference has now be convicted and shown to be a paedophile. And that their family members remain in Green Party, one of who is in an influential post with regards to safeguarding

This is an even bigger scandal than the Jess Bradley one which seems to also have been conveniently ignored by all the media

I have so much admiration for that child. Mine is only a bit older and it just breaks my fucking heart to think how brave and strong she had to be.

Yy Pillar of the community...where have we heard that before

So is the fact this thread is still up some sort of confirmation that we are now allowed to discuss the matter?

Yes looks like the 5 day injunction is over

So impressed by people's diligence in checking this out. Otherwise it would pass the world by.

Shocked that old newspaper articles would be rewritten to edit out a family member. Is this an open society?

Yes so much admiration for the little girl and also the police and prosecution team.

Whichever police team were her first contact deserve praise for dealing with it in a manner which got this in to court.