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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Spiked on Merseyside investigation of "women don't have penises"

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rocketpocket · 20/08/2018 21:19

www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/women-dont-have-penises/21722#.W3shdePTXYU

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speakingwoman · 20/08/2018 21:31

Bump

Angryresister · 20/08/2018 21:57

Yes absolutely

NotTerfNorCis · 20/08/2018 22:00

Good article but some MRA nonsense in the comments unfortunately.

Popchyk · 20/08/2018 22:04

"In recent days... the West Yorkshire Police threatened to arrest people who abused or mocked them on their Facebook page"

What was that about? I missed that.

theOtherPamAyres · 20/08/2018 22:09

Wow! Lots of people commenting, and the gender extremists sound unhinged.

NotMeOhNo · 20/08/2018 22:24

Interesting to see MRA comments. Manspreading is physiologically necessary for males apparently, and has been constructed as a problem by feminists. Apparently Tesco caves to feminists too because they once didn't have a girl's item that enforced femininity.

arranfan · 20/08/2018 22:33

I've just returned from paddling on some local water. Oddly enough, all of the men, from the young 1.4m to the 2m tall chaps managed to sit inside a kayak or in a double canoe without manspreading out of physiological necessity..

chocolatestrawberries · 20/08/2018 22:44

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Voice0fReason · 20/08/2018 23:45

oh yes indeed

rocketpocket · 21/08/2018 06:59

I sort comments by "best" rather than newest. They seem largely sensible. The silly ones are argued with.
Is everyone else sorted by newest?

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hackmum · 21/08/2018 08:31

Popchyk: "In recent days... the West Yorkshire Police threatened to arrest people who abused or mocked them on their Facebook page"

"What was that about? I missed that."

I wondered about that - turns out it was back in May:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/6256931/west-yorkshire-cannabis-bust-arrest-mocking/

But it just had to be the West Yorkshire Police, didn't it?

CesiraAndEnrico · 21/08/2018 08:32

From the comments

Funny, you hate feminists, but defend them when it suits you? Can't say im surprised, you are rather spineless, brendan

Has it not occurred to the commentator that even people not well disposed towards feminists.

1- Might not be keen on the state, business and organisations of many types arm twisting the entire population into repeating & living with a outright lie. Cos that road leads to North Korea.

2- They have grandmas, mums, sisters, wives, girlfriends, & daughters. And can quite clearly see the danger, disadvantage and discomfort of the TRA ideology in practice for the women & girls they love and naturally want to protect.

What seems to have gone over the comment writer's head is that only the hard core MGTOW crowd - who have removed all the females they were once related to from their lives - have no dog in this hunt.

But the rest of the blokes do.

They don't want their grandma, or mum coming home from senior swimming in a right state due to a "lady" penis they did not expect, nor appreciate having around them. They don't want to see her confused and devastated after being called a bigot by staff when justifiably upset. They don't want to see her refusing to go back to her senior swimming group, or exercise club and shrinking her life further in fear of a world she doesn't understand and finds increasingly frightening.

They don't want some creep clocking their wife, girlfriend or daughter going into the loo and following her, safe in the knowledge that he can play the "I'm a Woman cos I say so" card and blame her reactions not on what he did to her, but her "false accusation style bigotry". While huge swathes of the #metoo crowd decide that this time #IBelieveHer is meant for the accused with a beard and a dick, not the traumatised female accusing.

There are a small number of men so angry with a woman, that they have come to hate all women. They are the only ones who can afford to be motivated to sit back and call this a "spat" between TRAs and feminists. Everybody else has something to lose because they have people of both sexes in their lives, that they love and care about.

And since I have heard that anti-feminists tend to lurky lurk a lot on this board. I have a personal message for them.

If you cannot, will not, step up and protect the women in your life, from grandma to tiny little daughter, by pushing back against the TRA agenda, you are failing as a man.

Don't kid yourself you are any different from the blokes you call Betas & Soyboys. You are a member of that club too. The strong, decent men step up with their voices and their votes when their women are being shunted into a dangerous place by the government and the big money.

Before any of you start getting aerated about Feminist Double Standards about gender roles. I'm not one.

I'm just a bog standard, boringly no-lable woman. Who's been happily married for a quarter of a century to a decent, strong man, and the mother of a newly minted man with the same mindset and backbone as his father. There are zero barriers to me calling some bloke's cowardice what it is. Those that won't stand up for the women in their life are basically too scared to talk back to a bunch of transwomen. So they retreat into distain for feminists, to try and justify their inaction, not just to everybody else, but also themselves.

Well I see you, you gutless wimp.

And so do all the men around you.

Do better, or get out of the way, while the grown ups, with wildly diverse personal priorities & values, clear up the latest mess from the Millennial Ministry of Hurt Feelings.

PoulaFisch · 21/08/2018 13:32

The responses to the instagram pics are shall we say, "earthy" and unreservedly negative...

www.instagram.com/p/BmlKgikhCx5/

TimeLady · 21/08/2018 13:41

Some of those posting comments on Spiked seem similar to the ones on The Spectator. They generally dislike feminists as much as they dislike anyone else who is not white and male.

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 21/08/2018 13:44

Resisters have a link on their fb page. You can print your own penis pic onto sticker paper. (You would obvs keep this indoors for your own personal reading though.) just saying.

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 21/08/2018 13:48

Love the way on their posts people who aren’t from Liverpool are told they shouldn’t get into the debate. Do you think they know it’s national?

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 21/08/2018 13:48

I mean the commenters

arranfan · 21/08/2018 13:51

The responses to the instagram pics are shall we say, "earthy" and unreservedly negative.
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Some of those posting comments on Spiked seem similar to the ones on The Spectator. They generally dislike feminists as much as they dislike anyone else who is not white and male

On balance, does anyone have the impression that those commenters (Instagram, Spiked, Spectator):
i) fully understand the relevant issues and intersections;
ii) are trusting the opinion of halo organisations like Stonewall/the Police who tell them these are instances of transphobia/worthy of investigation as hate crimes;
iii) are so misogynistic that they're indifferent to the relevant issues?

TimeLady · 21/08/2018 13:55

I'd go for reason iii) most of the time. They berate the journalists too.

hackmum · 21/08/2018 13:59

I see we've already got one "literally" on the Instagram responses: "It's literally BULLYING". What's funny (sort of) is the amount of really nasty abusive comments from people who are claiming that the sentence "Women don't have penises" is abusive. Thick or what?

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