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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transexual voices - twitter thread

113 replies

OnThisHill · 16/08/2018 01:38

twitter.com/tsvoices/status/1029863492197785600?s=19

Please read this, I really feel the tide is turning.
We are being heard. The message is getting out, but sadly, I think the gender activists have created a climate where a backlash will come, and these guys are saying the same.

BUT - I think we're reaching tipping point...... What do you all think?

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SimonBridges · 16/08/2018 11:24

I saw that today.
I notice the first reply is someone suggesting this was actually posted by a TERF pretending to be trans.

heresyandwitchcraft · 16/08/2018 11:27

miranda the very sight of you posting on MN has made my day. As usual, you make excellent points. I am so thankful for your courage and hard work in this whole debate. (And I miss you on Twitter.)

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 16/08/2018 12:41

If they’re going to be different, they actually have to be different. Else this is just another attempt to claim a higher spot on the validity hierarchy.

This. In fact I agree with all of your post miranda.

Starkstaring · 16/08/2018 12:58

Great post. Leave the GRA as it is.

Now let's protect anyone whose gender expression is outside societal norms from discrimination bullying, harassment and violence.

OnThisHill · 16/08/2018 14:47

HI. Thank you Miranda for your comments. I do agree with you, oh God, had forgotten about the short-lived but toxic TSRainCrew Blush

It would've been great if this post had gone a little further, but it is a start....
Of course it's not purely altruistic but I think we all see (and some for a very long time) where the TRA have been heading and actually who has the most to lose.

For women, there's safety in numbers at least.

Miranda, you are sorely missed on twitter, although I doubt you miss IT!

Let's see how things pan out, but I really do believe the tide is turning....? Am I being too optimistic? (I did say this a year ago, confidently proclaiming to all who would listen! Oh no, I said, SelfID will never happen. We'll see. I still think it was a Tory plot to make Labour look really stupid but they're doing that all by themselves).

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LangCleg · 16/08/2018 15:52

I don't see why transsexuals shouldn't organise and create a distinction between themselves and the rights they've gained/want and the extremist anti-woman activists and their demands.

But I also agree with Miranda. This post isn't a feminist positioning, nor does it contain anything but the most scant reference to women's rights, and it certainly doesn't take time to condemn the toxic environment that has been created for women.

That's fine - no group should feel obliged to centre another group. But let's not fall over ourselves in gratitude. That statement wasn't about us or for us.

SwearyG · 16/08/2018 16:18

Looks like the twitter account is suspended already. Either the mass reporters got busy or it was too good to be true. Didn't take long, either way.

Melamin · 16/08/2018 16:22

That one, and another tweeter saying they were aware of Jess's predatory behaviour. My twitter feed is looking a bit like swiss cheese.

Mamaryllis · 16/08/2018 16:39

Is the fb page still there?

MsMcWoodle · 16/08/2018 16:48

I'm glad we have the text of it here.

SimonBridges · 16/08/2018 17:04

It’s been suspended? On what grounds?

Melamin · 16/08/2018 17:09

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1029863492197785600.html

There is a threadreader.

ElenOfTheWays · 16/08/2018 17:11

It’s been suspended? On what grounds?

Some TRA's didn't like it?

Datun · 16/08/2018 17:33

Suspended? Oh good lord. These people have absolutely no marketing skills whatsoever. Shutting down an account like that is merely drawing attention to it elsewhere!!!

AppleBlossomTimeNow · 16/08/2018 17:43

If suspended, that is unreal.

mirandayardley · 16/08/2018 17:46

I think the account deactivated.

Hulo · 16/08/2018 17:50

I'm following one of the trans women who are a part of it and I've asked her what's happened.

I suspect there has been an orchestrated campaign. I've seen at least one TRA stating it's a TERF front and linked to 4chan

WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 16/08/2018 17:57

Yeah, cos radical feminists just love hanging out on 4chan.

SimonBridges · 16/08/2018 18:17

Why does everything get blamed on 4Chan?

Ereshkigal · 16/08/2018 18:19

Because these idiots are extremely unimaginative.

heresyandwitchcraft · 16/08/2018 19:18

WTF? If this was some elaborate prank, then that's a sh*t move. If it was a genuine group of transsexuals who either got spooked or booted off, then that's actually worse... Urgh.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/08/2018 19:27

And now a new fake account set up to discredit

OnThisHill · 16/08/2018 19:43

Once again I have been taken in. Sad
So gullible!

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/08/2018 19:49

No, sorry I phrased that badly. A new account has been set up pretending to be the old one, but tweeting some properly transphobic things.

ShotsFired · 16/08/2018 20:02

@SimonBridges Why does everything get blamed on 4Chan?

Because that sort of site is where aggressive, misogynistic men would go.