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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anti-trans vandals are plastering vile ‘women don’t have penises’ stickers around London

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drradfem · 09/08/2018 20:12

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/08/09/anti-trans-women-penises-stickers-london-stonewall/

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silentcrow · 10/08/2018 14:31

‘Women don’t have willys’ is even funnier.

The Long Man of Wilmington needs a big banner saying "Not a woman" Grin

LangCleg · 10/08/2018 14:43

This is like guerilla knitting, but better!

TalkingintheDark · 10/08/2018 14:45

How wonderful that they printed Angela C Wild’s statement in full! Those are the most pro-lesbian words to appear in Pink News for a very long time.

And I know others have pointed this out already, but
The support we are getting is incredibly important, as we don’t have the same resources as many of the anti-trans bigots and access to the media as they do and these are one of the only ways we can raise awareness.

Wow. I honestly don’t know if that’s world league deliberate lying, or breathtaking denial.

Anyway. Great work, whoever did it! Let’s hope we see many, many more of them!

MrsFogi · 10/08/2018 14:45

In the spirit of balance it may be kind to also produce stickers that say "Penis owners are women when they say they are. Women who dare to question this must be silenced by labelling them transphobic". Ideally the wording on a large dick Grin

TERFMcDuck · 10/08/2018 15:01

I've not RTFT past page 7 but I would urge caution if you try and buy these stickers online.

You will be giving the seller (who you don't know from Adam) your name and home or work address. The seller could use this information to identify you. Be very very careful. If you really want to buy online get a PO Box under a fake name Flowers.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 10/08/2018 15:14

This thread is great. Like "women don't have penises" but also the suggested upthread "keep penis out of the ladies". The latter is actually more than just about trans - more just anti-predatory men as there have been accounts of men putting cameras etc in the ladies even without self-ID (no doubt numbers would skyrocket if self ID happens).

womensvoicesmatter · 10/08/2018 15:17

TERFMcDuck, you have a good point - but, do you know what, I'm getting to the point I think - fuck being afraid, it's time to stand up and be counted.

In a couple of months, we may lose the sex based protections women fought for, by the word woman being redefined.

I'm getting to the point where I'm happy to stand and be counted and say "yes it was me. I bought the penis stickers. So what?"

The Suffragettes didn't stay at home, frightened of being doxed. Not did the Get the L Out campaigners the other week.

Julie Bindell tweeted, today:

All you liberals looking at tweets from perfectly reasonable feminists such as 'women don't have penises', that choose not 2 'like' or retweet - sort yourselves out. You're the reason we've sleepwalked into this Orwellian nightmare, with rapists in women's prisons, described as 'she'.

You know it's crazy, and you know fine well it is not 'transphobic' to assert these truths. Stop being cowards, and start to speak out. I was more-or-less on my own for a decade with this shit, and it is not a nice place to be.

It's time to throw caution to the wind, I reckon!

Cartertheunstoppablesexmachine · 10/08/2018 15:24

Nothing new to add other than this story has done a super job in highlighting the story. It might otherwise have remained unnoticed.

The creator chose the locations and message with expertise and I admire HER.

Angela C Wild's quote is brilliant. It's almost as if somebody forgot to edit the article Smile

And, even if I have to create a sticker in felt tip, I'll be joining in IRL.

In the non virtual world it is pretty clear how ludicrous it is to claim that a man is a woman. This will have far more impact than Twitter.

TheCountryGirl · 10/08/2018 15:34

The support we are getting is incredibly important, as we don’t have the same resources as many of the anti-trans bigots and access to the media as they do and these are one of the only ways we can raise awareness.

These anti-woman activists just cannot stop lying.

TheCountryGirl · 10/08/2018 15:34

Bold fail!

Bineverywhere · 10/08/2018 15:37

I'm happy to buy stickers if anyone's setting up shop. I have the odd subversive trip to university. Based in Scotland so extra points for a jaunty wee kilt and/or inclusion of the words "ya bams".

ColumboHere · 10/08/2018 15:51

It would be even better if the stickers included a pp suggestion:

The Pope is Catholic
Bears Shit in the Woods
Women don't have Penises

Ereshkigal · 10/08/2018 16:14

Delete us from the SM platforms - we'll take it onto the streets.

I really think we are going to need to, yes.

LangCleg · 10/08/2018 16:21

Delete us from the SM platforms - we'll take it onto the streets.

Yep. I'm about quite a bit less at the moment. Not stickering - persuading people to fill out the consultation. It's going quite well, actually!

Mossandclover · 10/08/2018 16:34

I wouldn’t suggest criminal damage (weed killer on grass).

However, someone mentioned bookshops and books? How about some guerilla tactics with bookmarks? Easier to print at home.

CesiraAndEnrico · 10/08/2018 16:44

You will be giving the seller (who you don't know from Adam) your name and home or work address. The seller could use this information to identify you. Be very very careful. If you really want to buy online get a PO Box under a fake name

Say I had something to lose, reputation, wotnot. But only had payment methods that linked to my real name.

The seller would know who I was... think EU privacy legislation which is still active would make mincemeat of any seller (or employee of seller) that shared my personal info with hostiles, no ?. And could even make my daydream of a small, but not too small, lottery come true. But with compo. instead of numbers guessed right ?

If the seller/employee was more focused on profit/wage rather than their TRA mates' vendettas, yet I am still a cautious person. If entirely hypothetically I ordered stickers. Went to a loo. Closed the door. Stuck a sticker on the back of the door. Left. I could be seen on CCTV at some point. But not in the act of subversive stickering.
I guess the police if desperate to prosecute could use the fly posting legislation, do CSI things, trace the sticker back to the print shop, strongarm the print shop to produce the right invoice, match the names of both person in the CCTV film and person on invoice and celebrate taking me down.

But nothing is 100% guaranteed safe.

Doing nothing certainly isn't.

Overall, I think while there may be small risks, if you have to pay with a named credit card, and I would have to, the risks could be reduced to really tiny with a little creative thinking.

Hypothetically of course.

stillathing · 10/08/2018 16:56

In the spirit of balance it may be kind to also produce stickers that say "Penis owners are women when they say they are. Women who dare to question this must be silenced by labelling them transphobic". Ideally the wording on a large dick

i like this idea! i think one of the things that needs to happen is for ordinary people to realise that they too are transphobic because the original meaning of the word has been totally debased.

PencilsInSpace · 10/08/2018 17:05

I would urge caution if you try and buy these stickers online.

Yes this is sensible. I've just printed a sheet of them on address label stickers Smile

MrsFogi · 10/08/2018 17:23

Would it be unreasonable to get the dcs working on making these stickers with their sticker machine over the holidays? Wink

ChattyLion · 10/08/2018 17:25

Grin YANBU Fogi

olderthanyouthink · 10/08/2018 17:25

I've thought about how to say anon online before, for the purpose of having a website without the risk of doxing but it really hard (especially is they are determined) to do legally.

If you wanted to buy online without your card detail you can buy visa gift cards in supermarkets with cash and use a PO box.

A company not protecting your data would face huge fines so not really in their interest to give it out. Though police could get it.

Be a pain in the arse to track down if loads of people are doing it all over the place, using different methods of production and printers.

SingeBuggerBlack · 10/08/2018 17:47

The Long Man of Wilmington needs a big banner saying "Not a woman"

In all fairness, the Long Man of Wilmington doesn't actually have a cock. He does have great big sticks though. Christ knows what he identifies as. A Nordic walker perhaps?

Perhaps you're thinking of the Cerne Abbas Giant? 'Cause with him it's cocks ahoy.

/totally misses point of thread

silentcrow · 10/08/2018 17:52

SingeBuggerBlack yup. Just outing myself as a Northerner there. At least I didn't misgender the big stick person Grin

ChattyLion · 10/08/2018 17:58

Wait how can anyone assume that the Cerne Abbas Giant is a he?
I mean, just because the giant has a massive (‘vile?’) cock, visible from space, centuries old?
LITERAL VIOLENCE

womensvoicesmatter · 10/08/2018 18:08

Yes, it's definitely the Cerne Abbas Giant who has the giant cock

Got a picture somewhere of me and friends sitting in the giant cock, as a teen, and a scar on my leg from climbing over the barbed wire fence to get there, still visible (just), 30 years later!

Actually, do you know what, this summer is exactly the 30th anniversary of me sitting on the Cerne Abbas Giant's cock, could even be this very day. Sorry, probably not of interest to anyone else, but I wouldn't have realised that were it not for this thread. Perhaps it's a sign?! Grin

(Disclaimer, you're not really supposed to sit on it - ancient site and all that).

Shame, though, really as I'm much nearer the Long Man of Wilmington.

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