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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Freedom Programme being trolled

48 replies

PeakPants · 09/08/2018 17:27

By some idiot called Julia Langley, who keeps emailing them telling them to educate themselves. Luckily the FP has told her to fuck off.
twitter.com/julialangley/status/1027562106223243265?s=21

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PeakPants · 09/08/2018 17:27

twitter.com/julialangley/status/1027562106223243265?s=21

Will try again re link

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SturdyEarmuffs · 09/08/2018 17:28

FP have given a brilliant response to it though. Fuck this, indeed.

PeakPants · 09/08/2018 17:30

Yeah. How do you get as stupid as Julia though? Hey, I know, I will troll a vital lifeline for victims of domestic violence who are acting completely within the law.

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YeTalkShiteHen · 09/08/2018 17:30

Fantastic response to an unbelievably goady message.

YeTalkShiteHen · 09/08/2018 17:32

It’s not stupidity, quite the opposite. It’s a blatant, calculated and deliberate campaign to erode women’s rights and to ensure we have no safe spaces.

I don’t believe for a second it’s anything other than a coordinated attack on women.

TheCountryGirl · 09/08/2018 17:33

That's how I feel about the whole ridiculous movement. Fuck this!

Abouttoblow · 09/08/2018 17:34

Amazing response from the FP.

Hope the message sinks in to the trolls.

Bowlofbabelfish · 09/08/2018 17:37

It’s a blatant, calculated and deliberate campaign to erode women’s rights and to ensure we have no safe spaces.

My thoughts as well. I want to have a public debate about who or what is driving this. Shout it from the rooftops

womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/08/2018 17:38

Great response to an uninformed troll who supposedly is a trainee forensic psychologist Hmm Hmm

PeakPants · 09/08/2018 17:38

Yes, I do see that Helen. I am always gobsmacked when it's women though- talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.
HOW many trans women are in intimate relationships with men where they are subjected to violence or control? Not many I would wager because those sorts of men don't have relationships with TW. Yes, TW are at high risk of street-harassment and violence from strangers, but I do not think they are at risk of partner-violence in any way near the same way as women are. Yet Julia wants to spread the message that actually violence against natal women isn't that serious and that the FP should focus on trans women.

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Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 17:38

It’s not stupidity, quite the opposite. It’s a blatant, calculated and deliberate campaign to erode women’s rights and to ensure we have no safe spaces.

I don’t believe for a second it’s anything other than a coordinated attack on women.

I absolutely agree. Coming hard on the heels of that appallingly manipulative Stonewall survey which didn't bother to ask any abused women what they thought and which the anti woman activists on social media think is a massive gotcha. This is a calculated push.

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 17:39

And the fucking BBC Children in Need thing.

PeakPants · 09/08/2018 17:39

TW are at high risk of street-harassment and violence from strangers

And so are natal women of course, I should add.

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SwearyG · 09/08/2018 17:45

I know when they go low we go high but would you put your grade 3 piano on your acting cv or include recorder as an instrument you play? We assume she can’t swim as surely she’d have included her 5m badge.

ToeToToe · 09/08/2018 18:11

I can't read the actual message sent to them - but I can take a wild guess at the general content... but fantastic response from TFP Grin

Women's Aid, Fawcett etc need to take heed of this. I cannot believe the sustained attack on women-only services that is going on - I can only assume that the easy capitulation to the TAs is funding related - ie. they'll stop getting it unless they embrace the trans-inclusive stance.

Also - great page of "if your feminism..." in the replies - I've only seen that used against us. (Jeez they're even trying to take feminism away from us Angry )

Here: twitter.com/inanna62/status/1027557642246316033

Anyonewhoknows · 09/08/2018 18:15

I can't read the response from FP on my crappy phone. Could someone kindly c&p it on here please?

UpstartCrow · 09/08/2018 18:22

''I am emailing you to express my concern at your recent retweets regarding seeing trans women as men, and promoting the work of Let Women. As a supporter of the Freedom Programme and the great work it does to save and educate victims of domestic abuse, I feel I need to highlight this to you.

I would urge the Freedom Programme to reconsider their position on this as it implies that trans women who are victims of domestic abuse would not be allowed to access your services. As a provider of sale spaces to a marginalised group, denying the reality of another can be seen as hateful and will encourage further marginalisation. Trans individuals have already won the right to legally change their identity, and by opposing this the Freedom Programme are not aligning themselves with the 2004 Gender Recognition Act, and subsequently are fuelling hatred.
I understand that whomever may run your Twitter account potentially might not hold the views of the Freedom Programme as a whole, hence I am highlighting this to you in order for this to be investigated.

Please do get back to me if you have any questions about this.
lf the aforementioned tweets are indeed approved by the Freedom Programme, please do educate yourselves on the victimisation of trans individuals, and the law.''

AssortedPhenomena · 09/08/2018 18:25

Fuck this indeed! Grin

IStillMissBlockbuster · 09/08/2018 18:26

Fuck that.

UpstartCrow · 09/08/2018 18:32

Its very concerning that someone training to be a forensic psychologist cant see the need for single sex trauma therapy.

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 18:48

One of Julia's Woke Bro chums has waded in.

twitter.com/asmallmind/status/1027573972295147522?s=20

ToeToToe · 09/08/2018 19:00

Ha - his whole twitter profile pic is of his beard. Figures.

This shit is putting me off beards, and I love DH when he has a beard.

WeAreGerbil · 09/08/2018 19:10

I can't read the FP tweet, have they deleted it?

YeTalkShiteHen · 09/08/2018 19:13

No it’s still there!

Freedom Programme being trolled
FloralBunting · 09/08/2018 19:15

'Obviously, as a man, I expect a bit of a response to this'

I think he meant this tweet to say that he expected a backlash, as a man wading into this discussion to tell off an organization that looks after women. (And I bloody hope he gets one)

But it really does read as though he is saying that 'as a man' he expects to be engaged with and his criticism answered. Probably because of the supercilious bollocks of the first tweet.

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