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howonearthdidwegethere · 07/08/2018 16:18

I realise how much precious time I have wasted on social media (Twitter, mainly) and yet only 17% of people use Twitter.

So I am vowing to spend much less time sparring with strangers (and bots?!) and to do what I can in the offline world.

I'm still tentative about putting my head above the parapet, but I've come to see that there is SO much you can achieve offline, even from the comfort of your sofa and/or without revealing your work to the wider world.

Examples:

Visit your elected representatives. I've met two face to face at their surgeries and both were hugely positive experiences, with real promise of follow-up. It made me feel more hopeful than I have in some time. Correspondence and meetings with elected reps are confidential.

Crawl ALL OVER your local council/NHS Trust/local education authority website. Read everything on there that relates to their equalities policies. Work out what the implications are for girls and women and then get writing. Write to the elected representatives but also write to Chief Executives, directors etc. Royal Mail used to say that 'nothing gets through like a letter' and it's really true. But equally, emailing is good too.

Subterfuge leafleting. Generate a leaflet/flyer: simple, clear messaging with a clear call to action. Point people towards WPUK or FPFW websites or create an anonymous blog (set blog up for free using Blogger or Wordpress) that sets out any particular local concerns. Buy a pack of Blutak and take a wander around women-only spaces and stick them in toilet cubicles or walls/mirrors: toilets and changing rooms in leisure centres, department stores, cafes and restaurants, public buildings, art galleries, theatres - EVERYWHERE!

Contact your friends to raise awareness of these issues. I've got an issue with one of our council policies and am discovering that virtually no-one was aware of the policy. It has sparked others to write to their councillors etc.

Form a feminist group. Meet up regularly for a drink/coffee to talk about what you can all do individually or collectively.

Try to get stuff in your local paper/media. Anything to break through into the mainstream to raise awareness whether it's a stunt (Man Friday style or whatever) or a hard-nosed review of council policies that you publish on a blog.

You won't believe how much power you really have if you organise!

This is not to say that being online has no value. Mumsnet has been so important to me, gathering intelligence about the trans/self-ID agenda. But most ordinary people do not engage online and we know how easy it is for trolls to infiltrate online groups.

Going to obey my own advice now, so signing off...

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Wanderabout · 07/08/2018 16:24

This is really helpful thank you.

Ereshkigal · 07/08/2018 16:31

Great suggestions.

sarahjconnor · 07/08/2018 16:40

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meditrina · 07/08/2018 16:44

Is this the latest iteration of a "we really ought to pay a bit more attention to the feminist activitsts of yore" thread?

All those of us who have been campaigning since before the rise of the internet. And who might join me in indulging in a wry smile at this point...

heresyandwitchcraft · 07/08/2018 16:50

This is just sound life-advice in general. Thanks OP.

howonearthdidwegethere · 07/08/2018 16:57

Hi meditrina.

Wasn't intended that way!

I'm a Mumsnet lurker and an older woman myself! My day job is campaigning but I'm struck by how sucked into an online existence I've become on this particular issue. I realise I have literally wasted days and days sparring with intransigent idiots on Twitter.

For various reasons, it's hard for me to be 'out there' in the offline world with my views/campaigning but I've found a way of influencing that can be done quietly but effectively and thought I'd share some of the techniques I've used.

But I most definitely agree that part of the reason we're in the mess is failure to heed older feminists/women, on whose shoulders we all stand.

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DidoAndHerLament · 07/08/2018 17:09

What a great post. I had no idea that only 17% of people use Twitter, and it makes me realise how easily I am sucked in to that online world, and forgetting that it doesn't necessarily reflect the world offline.

I've been reading lately about 2nd wave feminism and I'm envious of the sisterhood I imagine so many women felt meeting, organising, protesting and consciousness-raising. Although I get some sense of sisterhood by following rad fems on Twitter, I'm not actually making much of a difference just by reading and re-tweeting and sparring with misogynists.

Right. I'm off to make some stickers and to find a group to join.

Thank you for the timely kick up the bum. Smile

boatyardblues · 07/08/2018 17:16

I still think there’s a place for both. It would be a shame if online debate and resources withered, as a they are useful or early lurkers and questioners who are reading around the topic.

howonearthdidwegethere · 07/08/2018 17:21

Hi boatyardblues

Totally agree. I've gained so much from this site in terms of (1) understanding the threats to women's hard-won rights presented by trans ideology and (2) a sense that I am very much not alone in my concern. Both are so important.

So yes, we can do both. I'm just vowing to be more disciplined about my time online and am realising how much can be achieved offline even in an under-the-radar way.

(Ooops, I came back online. Christ, it's an addictive drug!!)

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WarmWishes · 07/08/2018 17:48

Thanks for this. I have been thinking about joining a feminist group but worried that I wouldn't find one that would tolerate my views.

Well the first google result for my local area brings up a feminist group with a pinned post on twitter from women's place and the first tweet is a retweet of Jean Hatchet. I should have done it before.

placemats · 07/08/2018 18:54

I've bookmarked and taken a photo of this post. Extremely helpful. Thank you!

MrsFogi · 07/08/2018 19:19

For those who may be new to this topic, FPFW means Fair Play for Women and WPUK is definitely not the Women's Party but is Women's Place UK.

Everyday conversations are a great place to bring up the concerns around the proposed changes re self-id.

MrsFogi · 07/08/2018 19:21

I would add to OP's list that if anyone is not ready to take this "offline" they should instead start to try to bring the topic up elsewhere on MN (other than on the feminist boards). It is often relevant.......

CholloDeNombre · 07/08/2018 19:43

Thanks for this list, I've been working on it without realising. :) I seriously love the sticker/leafleting campaigns that have been going on surreptitiously in London of late.

SarahCarer · 07/08/2018 20:33

Right. I'm off to make some stickers and to find a group to join. Love this. I very much doubt there is a feminist in my very suburban upper working class area. But I too will make the effort and look for one.

seafret · 07/08/2018 21:32

Somewhat housebound myself, but I am trying to work on some posters so I can stick them (very stickily) on toilet doors when I do go somewhere. Will use spray glue so they can't be easily taken down and wear gloves so they don't get my finger prints! Am not in an insecure life situation so not able to do anything publically.

Am hoping people would photo the poster as I wouldn't have a clue how to make a scannable barcode.

I thought about putting small leaflets in library books but thought maybe people would go nuts! At least they would be talking about it though. Is it a good idea or a bad one do you think?

seafret · 07/08/2018 21:35

*sorry, bad tying, I meant I am in an insecure situation so can't go public.

seafret · 07/08/2018 21:36

*6typing^, jeez :(

seafret · 07/08/2018 21:36

I give up!

ChattyLion · 07/08/2018 21:53

Great ideas for IRL actions OP.
I think that face to face discussion with MPs is very very effective as a strategy.
I bet there must be more pre-Internet strategies that we can revive.
Who remembers having their local feminist telephone tree drawn up in a chart on the wall? Grin

CholloDeNombre · 07/08/2018 21:53

I like the library books idea. And charity shop books, clothing pockets, waiting rooms, etc

howonearthdidwegethere · 07/08/2018 22:17

I love the library books idea!

I've generated a few different flyers and have mainly stuck them in loos but if I took the bus regularly was thinking of slipping them inside the Metro.

The woman who is stickering in London is so inspired! Would be great if she could create a merch site where others could buy them.

(If you're reading, whoever does this, please think about it!

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howonearthdidwegethere · 07/08/2018 22:20

(Last post. Going to bed now, honest.)

I recently read Emmeline Pankhurst's My Own Story and the suffragettes would buy cheap tickets to theatre shows in the upper circle, shout 'votes for women' or unfurl a banner then scatter 100s of flyers down into the stalls before they were forcibly removed.

Okay, so a little next level, but hey...

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seafret · 07/08/2018 22:26

Oh cool! I will try to do it, and hope others might too. I love the idea of pocket in clothes and charity shops Chollo

I'm really struggling with making up materials and owrries I won't get much done in time. Still, will tyr...

and also maybe on the shopping list holders on shopping trollies.

And on th fornt of car park pay machines.

A few hidden left amongst the feminine hygeine shleves in the supermarket?!

seafret · 07/08/2018 22:28

howonearthdidwegethere perhaps we need some surruptitious pritning by confetti makers!!!

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