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howonearthdidwegethere · 07/08/2018 16:18

I realise how much precious time I have wasted on social media (Twitter, mainly) and yet only 17% of people use Twitter.

So I am vowing to spend much less time sparring with strangers (and bots?!) and to do what I can in the offline world.

I'm still tentative about putting my head above the parapet, but I've come to see that there is SO much you can achieve offline, even from the comfort of your sofa and/or without revealing your work to the wider world.

Examples:

Visit your elected representatives. I've met two face to face at their surgeries and both were hugely positive experiences, with real promise of follow-up. It made me feel more hopeful than I have in some time. Correspondence and meetings with elected reps are confidential.

Crawl ALL OVER your local council/NHS Trust/local education authority website. Read everything on there that relates to their equalities policies. Work out what the implications are for girls and women and then get writing. Write to the elected representatives but also write to Chief Executives, directors etc. Royal Mail used to say that 'nothing gets through like a letter' and it's really true. But equally, emailing is good too.

Subterfuge leafleting. Generate a leaflet/flyer: simple, clear messaging with a clear call to action. Point people towards WPUK or FPFW websites or create an anonymous blog (set blog up for free using Blogger or Wordpress) that sets out any particular local concerns. Buy a pack of Blutak and take a wander around women-only spaces and stick them in toilet cubicles or walls/mirrors: toilets and changing rooms in leisure centres, department stores, cafes and restaurants, public buildings, art galleries, theatres - EVERYWHERE!

Contact your friends to raise awareness of these issues. I've got an issue with one of our council policies and am discovering that virtually no-one was aware of the policy. It has sparked others to write to their councillors etc.

Form a feminist group. Meet up regularly for a drink/coffee to talk about what you can all do individually or collectively.

Try to get stuff in your local paper/media. Anything to break through into the mainstream to raise awareness whether it's a stunt (Man Friday style or whatever) or a hard-nosed review of council policies that you publish on a blog.

You won't believe how much power you really have if you organise!

This is not to say that being online has no value. Mumsnet has been so important to me, gathering intelligence about the trans/self-ID agenda. But most ordinary people do not engage online and we know how easy it is for trolls to infiltrate online groups.

Going to obey my own advice now, so signing off...

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howonearthdidwegethere · 09/08/2018 21:30

Why on earth was that deleted, MNHQ? (I'm new on here but can't for the life of me work out why.)

I think this was the link you shared, BetsyM00:

forwomen.scot/leaflets-and-stickers/

Here's another example of a homemade leaflet:

twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1027648268040372224

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NorasBarnacle · 09/08/2018 21:41

Thank you OP! These are great ideas for that I want to put into action in real life.

I'm based in the Republic of Ireland, where this issue is smaller and less overtly divisive (most likely because it hasn't impacted things like All Women's Shortlists etc...yet. )
But I am starting to read up on our equality legislation and learn who is involved in what organisations, how to make contact and how to be involved.

I wouldn't even dare to go public yet until I have a better sense of who supports what. There is a general assumption among mainstream feminist groups that any questioning of this issue makes you a terf - even among Repeal the 8th campaigners who I would have a lot of respect for. It is so disappointing.
I am so impressed by Ann Sinnott and the women on this forum, who have been a real inspiration. Thank you.

howonearthdidwegethere · 09/08/2018 21:48

Oooh oooh! Friend found this in a loo (in central Edinburgh). Told her she shouldn't have taken it down but left it there and snapped it with her camera phone, though. eye roll

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 09/08/2018 22:11

how that one is brilliant!

Someone suggested adding leaflets to supermarket notice boards - i have noticed lots of our local country parks etc also have local info type notice boards too Wink

Beamur · 09/08/2018 22:43

Funny thread just started about a sticker campaign being reported on in Pink News. It could be a summer of stickers!

DebbieInBirmingham · 09/08/2018 22:58

I've found that the online world is great for meeti like minded people and finding support, but a rubbish place to debate anything: it's really difficult to persuade anyone to shift their thinking even a tiny bit.

Meanwhile in real life I have had a huge influence over many of my friends. They are much more open and talking to them is a far more productive use of my time.

CherryAustin · 10/08/2018 01:58

This is a flyer collection - and an annotated copy of the GRA consultation explainer - that some of us put together last month. You're most welcome to download 'em and edit as you see fit.

Feel free to PM, twit or fb me with any you'd like added to the dropbox. If we can manage to get a wide selection of materials online so that various terfs Wink may access them, all the better.

dropbox folder here

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CherryAustin · 10/08/2018 02:18

I meant to add that it would be nice if people could put the flyers on their various cloud accounts (and Instagram?) and let their terfy contacts know, too. I think a network of sources, sharing the materials, could be helpful because we need to make it as easy as possible. Turning them into physical leaflets/stickers/whatever is work, and so is distributing them & starting conversations where possible. That has to be done by each campaigner or group, but at least we can let one another use our documents & designs.

I've got to admit my printouts - done on a cheap inkjet & cut with a razor blade - are less than perfect. If you see one with smudged ink and a raggedy edge ... I'll be thrilled it's made it into the wide world Grin

WarmWishes · 10/08/2018 12:09

Thanks for this. I am going to print them off.

I was thinking of surreptitiously leaving then in supermarket/restaurant/cafe toilets. Community notice boards.

Is this the sort of thing? Any other ideas/places?

CherryAustin · 10/08/2018 16:13

Well, that's my plan too. I'm also thinking of going round pubs & cafes, putting them on tables and seeing if people want to talk - the last part depends on skin thickness; I'll have to pick the right day!

madja · 10/08/2018 16:22

Thanks for all these ideas. This is what I need to do, get out into the real world more and make an impact. I just had no Ideas on how to do that.
So thank you, my cogs are now whirring!

ChattyLion · 10/08/2018 17:17

Various other new printable and stickable resources on here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331514-anti-trans-vandals-are-plastering-vile-women-don-t-have-penises-stickers-around-london

GarlicGrace · 10/08/2018 21:58

Thanks, Chatty. I've added a collection of lesbians and penises to the folder Grin
www.dropbox.com/sh/czmqwqk8406zqpf/AAC5BrNOvAWGCDbjdPcSBzhIa?dl=0

I'm looking forward to Cesira's cartoon willy from the other thread, as I think people round here might balk at the more penis-y penis. IYSWIM.

newtlover · 29/09/2018 21:03

I've been writing on £10 notes
there's a handy white border
fine point sharpies are best
I've been putting
saying you are a woman doesn't stop you being a man- keep women's safe spaces for women
and
www.fairplayforwomen.com

any other ideas what to write?

TerfedOff · 29/09/2018 21:04

fairplayforwomen.com/product/pack1/

Good starter pack here for £2 you get loads of really punchy and informative leaflets.

ChattyLion · 04/10/2019 06:55

Just for completeness, Some more recent (2019) stickering chat and links:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3698192-sticker-woman-strikes-again

Some IRL mixed sex toilet (no actual women’s toilet) venue commenting/protesting ideas:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3708072-Join-the-mixed-sex-loo-resistance-movement?pg=1&order=

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