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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip · 03/08/2018 13:54

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/08/2018 16:47

Is it possible that the twitter whistleblower was trying to use this information in some way (eg to encourage prominent TRAs to clean up their act) but didn't get anywhere so just released it?

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 04/08/2018 16:50

Quick google says Jess Fairbairn is a member of Manchester Gorton CLP and - according to the University, Mr Jessica Fairbairn is a post-grad in the school of Computer Science.

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 04/08/2018 16:50

That should say - a post grad at Manchester Uni.

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 16:52

Mr Jessica Alasdair Fairbairn is now the only director of Action for Trans Health since the founding directors all resigned in March. Fairbairn is a postgrad computing student at Manchester Uni

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 16:53

Yes why did they resign in March?

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 16:58

I think you could be bang on the money there itsallgoingtobefine

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 17:01

Sorry x-posted raisins

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 04/08/2018 17:03

Ah, we're just corroborating info, Orchid!

BettyDuMonde · 04/08/2018 17:08

No idea what the ATH event was (when all three directors resigned) but it was right before the entirely batshit second NUS trans conference (as covered by Rose of Dawn on YouTube)

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 17:09

Jess F looks like a cross between Pon and Brian ENO in the 70s

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 17:10

Pob not pon!

R0wantrees · 04/08/2018 17:19

No idea what the ATH event was (when all three directors resigned) but it was right before the entirely batshit second NUS trans conference (as covered by Rose of Dawn on YouTube)

'NUS Trans Conference: From Agender To Antifa:

The NUS Trans Conference 2018 brought us equal parts cringe and concern. I break down the motions they passed during the two-day event.'

Floisme · 04/08/2018 18:16

Apologies if I'm repeating something (I've only skimmed the last few pages) but R0wan linked this about Edward Lord:
"In late 2012, he joined the Inclusion Advisory Group of the London Football Association, becoming its chairman in February 2013. In October 2013 he was appointed by the Football Association to chair anti-discrimination related disciplinary commissions and in December 2013 as a member of the FA Inclusion Advisory Board."

Another member of the FA Inclusion Advisory Board(since 2017) is Chris Paouros who is listed as seconder to the GRA motion at the WEP conference: www.thefa.com/news/2017/nov/30/inclusion-advisory-board-welcomes-two-new-members-301117

Looking at their twitter feed, Paouros appear to be very into women's sport:
twitter.com/chrispaouros?lang=en

R0wantrees · 04/08/2018 18:37

Looking at their twitter feed, Paouros appear to be very into women's sport:

& is a WEP Trustee (according to Twitter profile)?

www.womensequality.org.uk/chris_paouros

ReluctantCamper · 04/08/2018 18:43

jeez louise

how can you be a woman, passionate about women's sport, and not see the risk that trans ideology poses to women's ability to participate safely and fairly in sport?

the cognitive dissonance must be frying Chris's brain

Floisme · 04/08/2018 18:45

I was wondering that too Camper.

heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 18:51

I don't know if these theories have been brought up, but it looks like a few things were happening around the beginning of 2018.

One of them was the meeting in Parliament of We Need to Talk UK on the 14th of March.
I am speculating, but it is possible that Jess decided to focus on countering feminists more than keeping the focus on ATH.
According to NUS officer Miles Fleet:
When the committee was formed, I was pretty keen to work on housing-related policy, and later in the year asked Jess why housing seemed to have taken a back seat in our campaign. She explained it was because working on the Gender Recognition Act reforms (which we didn’t know were happening at trans conference last year) and our response to it, were more urgent, and was something I entirely understood, as trans activism I had been doing in London was currently focused on that too.

Another point to note is there was a whole bunch of NUS drama in January/February when the leader, Shakira Martin, was accused of bullying. There seems to be little love lost between Shakira (who was subsequently re-elected to the presidency) and Jess.

Jess is on record saying:
Another statement posted on Twitter by Jess Bradley, trans students officer at the NUS, contained some allegations about Martin’s behaviour. Bradley said: "I think they show just how difficult it is to talk to her directly, privately or through proper channels, even about relatively minor concerns".

Bradley said her working relationship with Martin was untenable and had "created a situation where NUS culture is pretty broken".

www.thirdsector.co.uk/national-union-students-tells-officers-work-home-bullying-allegations-probed/management/article/1456045

A third point:
Remember that poster who advertised extra security services to transfeminine people in the media? They go by the name Ada Cable on Twitter.

Interestingly, someone named Ada Cable has been co-opted as a trans officer for the NUS, but isn't really mentioned on the main web-page itself.
Co-opted Member - Ada Cable
Since being co-opted to trans committee in September, I’ve been working to hold Jess accountable mainly by providing additional trans women's voices on the committee and ensuring that multiple perspectives are listened to.
I've pushed for trans women to be included in nus events and extended invitations to jess and other NUS reps to speak at events organised by other groups.
My activism within the NUS has largely consisted of organising with the NUS and other groups, including the work UK trans info is doing running trans security trainings for vulnerable trans people, and using the training provided by NUS trans and ARAF campaigns to begin work on street first aid groups in London.
We’ve also begun work with several other organisations on building a community care syllabus, to better equip activists to do more rigorous care, support and advocacy in the trans and queer communities.
Outside of the NUS I’ve carried out intense advocacy, as well as frequent speaking, training and organising engagements, as well as continued writing on the subjects of transfeminism and prison abolition.

From the accountability page:
www.nusconnect.org.uk/conferences/trans-students/accountability

The other thing that might be worth bringing up is that Ada Cable was involved in the Twitter storm after the Hyde Park attack. She was tweeting support for the attacker, although it looks like these have been deleted. Screenshots live on in feminist pages, though, including Skepticat UK's blog.

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
placemats · 04/08/2018 18:54

What drives people to reject the truth? Denialism. And this link has a focus on climate change, the Holocaust, and to a certain extent vaccines and HIV/AIDS.

From the article:

Denialism is more than just another manifestation of the humdrum intricacies of our deceptions and self-deceptions. It represents the transformation of the everyday practice of denial into a whole new way of seeing the world and – most important – a collective accomplishment. Denial is furtive and routine; denialism is combative and extraordinary. Denial hides from the truth, denialism builds a new and better truth.

www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/03/denialism-what-drives-people-to-reject-the-truth

LangCleg · 04/08/2018 18:57

Too busy to comment much atm but just wanted to at least call in and acknowledge all the collaborative work that is going into this thread.

MipMipMip · 04/08/2018 19:00

Is anyone who has got their head around the different directorship contacting Companies House about the inconsistencies? Purely to save JB hassle later, obviously.

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Procrastinator1 · 04/08/2018 19:03

If journalists aren't interested in all the information being gathered here, do you think an organisation/person with a blog or web-site might host the "relationship chart"? If there is nothing contentious and a person's own words or an organisations words are used it shouldn't be too risky.

If in a diagrammatic easy access form Journalists and others might then become more interested.

Agastache · 04/08/2018 19:19

I think they are probably all tidying up their copy waiting to be able to publish - it is their editors and lawyers stopping them from publishing stuff. I can't see anyone not wanting to write about this.

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 19:24

The other thing that might be worth bringing up is that Ada Cable was involved in the Twitter storm after the Hyde Park attack

Yes. The most notorious of the tweets was this (there are screenshots)

imagine if twenty people had punched terfs

Imagine if every one had left bruised and bloodied

Every one would stop organising.

placemats · 04/08/2018 19:26

I suppose when you have Carter Ruck biting at your heels the likelihood will be to step back. That on top of the recent ruling re Richards V BBC.

It makes for grim editorial decisions and a suppression of the truth.