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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip · 03/08/2018 13:54

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

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Procrastinator1 · 04/08/2018 12:54

Thank you for doing all this work. It's amazing how a relatively small number of people have obtained so much influence.
Every time JF is interviewed the journalist and broadcaster ought to be sent the above information and it should be put on social media, plus the egg shell domestic violence comments.
Perhaps the broadcasters won't take any notice, but those few people who engage on social media might.
Any politicians who consult her ought also to be reminded.
I am rubbish with saving stuff but I hope a copy CAAN's web-site is being preserved.

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 12:56

I'm sure we've discussed this before but John Ozimek, who now goes by the name Jane Fae, has a long history of trying to push back the boundaries of acceptable sexuality.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/jul/01/obscenity-law-darryn-walker Ozimek acted as expert witness for Darryn Walker who was charged (but not convicted) of publishing a fantasy about torturing, mutilating and murdering Girls Aloud. Ozimek's last paragraph is "Last but by no means least, some thought should go to the defendant in this case. He has lost his job. He has been pilloried in the press. His reputation is in tatters."

Fae/Ozimek is a strong advocate for what he calls 'extreme porn' - basically images of women and children being assaulted and abused.

These are the people behind the push to access women's spaces

StickyStuffRemover · 04/08/2018 13:05

You beat me to it, Orchid. I was just going to post about this. I had the misfortune to read some of the “story”, & it’s a really awful, graphic description of the rape, torture & murder of real, identifiable women. I can’t imagine how it must feel to be one of them & to know this obscenity exists & is still accessible on the internet for anyone to read about you. And yet Fae the feminist would airily have everyone believe that it is the author who is the real victim. Despicable.

R0wantrees · 04/08/2018 13:36

Thread discussing Jane Fae's comment about 'domestic violence gone wrong':
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3205176-dv-gone-wrong

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 13:39

You beat me to it, Orchid. I was just going to post about this. I had the misfortune to read some of the “story”, & it’s a really awful, graphic description of the rape, torture & murder of real, identifiable women. I can’t imagine how it must feel to be one of them & to know this obscenity exists & is still accessible on the internet for anyone to read about you. And yet Fae the feminist would airily have everyone believe that it is the author who is the real victim. Despicable.

And the defence was basically "look, do an internet search and you will see lots of other men fantasise about raping and torturing Girls Aloud to death so not fair to criminalise this one"

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 13:43

t appears that ‘Jess Histeria Bradley’ has taken down their Facebook account (hence the name being on these posts, it no longer being a clickable link)

Jess also had a FB in the name of Jess Elijah Bradley - was in the Naked Vegan Cooking FB group.

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 13:46

I've PDFed all 3 threads

Well done Star very sensible

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 13:48

Oh god poor you StickyStuff. I haven't read any of it - the mere description makes me feel sick.

In another article I was reading by Ozimek, he was complaining about censorship of the cover of the Scorpions' Virgin Killer album which features a photo of a naked ten year old girl in a sexualised pose with a smashed glass effect barely covering her vulva. Apparently, the title doesn't refer to actually killing girls though, no, it's a reference to time being the killer of innocence.

heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 13:54

It is worth remembering that Jane Fae's written evidence to the Transgender Equality Inquiry is focused on data security and privacy online...

"I am a journalist and campaigner with over 20 years experience of implementing and writing about data systems. I have implemented data security protocols in a number of major commercial organisations: and have provided advice and consultancy to many more.
Over the past three years I have:

  • Contributed to and edited guidance for employers on data privacy for trans employees and customers, commissioned by the Government Equalities Office
  • Chaired a meeting of LGBT and educational organisations on the unintended consequences of internet filtering, and presented back to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and the UK Council for Child Internet Safety filtering lead
  • Consulted with the Cabinet Office on a scheme for verification of individual identity
  • Written extensively in the LGBT press and elsewhere on data issues, leading to:
    Discussions with the Cabinet Office on their policy on revealing former names and withdrawal of legislation intended to make such disclosure compulsory
    Discussion and a planned meeting with Facebook on their “real names” policy
    Consulting with organisations within the UK Financial Services industry on ways to make their policies more trans-friendly

This paper addresses concerns that trans individuals are increasingly disadvantaged by the ways in which organisations process their data – and that better mutually beneficial approaches need urgently to be found."

data.parliament.uk/WrittenEvidence/CommitteeEvidence.svc/EvidenceDocument/Women%20and%20Equalities/Transgender%20Equality/written/19486.html

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 13:57

It is worth remembering indeed. Thank you for that.

Ereshkigal · 04/08/2018 14:02

So Fae wants to stop parents as bill payers monitoring their children's internet use?

Home-based internet systems increasingly provide the ability for the bill-payer to monitor the internet usage of other individuals. Most recently, it has been suggested, Microsoft’s Windows 10 package provides reports on other individuals as the default option.

This raises the question of whether anyone has an expectation of or right to privacy in their use of the internet. It is particularly an issue in respect of young people aged between 16 to 18 as well as any determined to be “Gillick competent”. In the case of the latter, the law currently permits them to access advice and medical support confidentially in respect of contraception: but it appears they can have no expectation of privacy in respect of their internet usage.

TimeLady · 04/08/2018 14:03

A compilation of some of these prominent TR contributers' other "interests" might well be a good strategic move.

R0wantrees · 04/08/2018 14:03

Recent article highlighting issues with regards convicted paedophiles changing names / deleting history following transition to trans women in jail;

article:www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3006679/paedophile-jailed-transgender-christyl-knight-christopher-nobile/

(Extracts)
The con is desperate for a fresh start but child protection expert Claude Knights said: “Allowing these individuals to hide a secret past is a dangerous practice.”

"[Margaret-Ann Cummings, a campaigner whose son was murdered by a convicted sex-offender] added: “It’s not unusual for sex offenders to want a new identity but this is the most disturbing case I’ve heard of.

“When someone, so soon after getting out of jail, is trying to change not just their name but their sex and appearance too, it sounds like they’re trying to hide rather than reform.”

Echoing her calls, child protection expert Claude Knights said: “Anyone who’s fuelled the vile trade in indecent images of children and therefore contributed to their sexual abuse should not be allowed to change their name.”

Intresting to note that Claude Knight has commented.
She has recently retired after 15 years as head of Kidscape: www.kidscape.org.uk/news/2016/may/ceo-claude-knights-announces-her-retirement/]]

cf Claude Knight's comments and also her experience in Safeguarding and child protectionand knowledge with James Morton who is also quoted in the article:

"James Morton, of the Scottish Transgender Alliance, said: “Our understanding is that transitioning does not erase your past if you’re a sex offender.

“You have to give your new name to police. Trans people usually encounter greater suspicion. I don’t think it helps people blend in.”

James Morton plays a key role in advocating trans rights in Scotland:

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324391-Paedophile-expert-warns-of-transitioning-as-a-ploy

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 14:05

It is indeed worth remembering that.

This is Ozimek's bio from Press Gazette: www.pressgazette.co.uk/john-ozimek/

I see that the reference to enthusiasm for extreme porn and disdain for censorship is now off the CV.

heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 14:22

Oh! Have a cheeky peek at this IMDB page.
It's documentary called "Hanging Perverts" from 2010.
Credits include:
Jane Fae.... Herself (as John Ozimek)

www.imdb.com/title/tt1695333/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_2

I haven't seen the whole thing, but the trailer features a face I find familiar at about 40 seconds in.

heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 14:22

And the credits also include:
Baroness Sue Miller

UpstartCrow · 04/08/2018 14:26

WTAF.

heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 14:27

Oh sorry, I forgot to add the description of the documentary:
Hanging Perverts is a film manifesto journeying in the world of hardcore bondage pornography, attacking issues of censorship and personal liberty. Includes interviews with Guardian journalist John Ozimek, Baroness Sue Miller of the UK Liberal Democrats, bondage photographer Ben Westwood, barrister Leo Charalambides and BDSM pornographic actress Masie Dee. According to Britain's Criminal Justice Act, since January 2009, it is an offense for a person to be in possession of an extreme pornographic image, including consensually and legally produced depictions of erotic bondage acts. While production is still legal, simple possession of such material can assure anyone a three-year prison sentence, as well as the ignoble status of sex offender.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/08/2018 14:28

^And the credits also include:
Baroness Sue Miller^

Interestingly that is not mentioned in any of her bios...

heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 14:29

It's on Amazon as well
www.amazon.com/Hanging-Perverts-NON-US-FORMAT-PAL/dp/B004MMEE40?tag=mumsnetforum-21

R0wantrees · 04/08/2018 14:29

I'm curious as to how Jane Fae's concern for trans privacy is reconciled with a postion of challenging censorship and protecting the freedom of the press.
See the co-author to the Guardian article Julian Petley:
inforrm.org/2014/08/26/interview-julian-petley-press-freedom-press-regulation-and-the-public-interest/

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 14:29

Baroness Sue Miller (who is a LibDem) is mentioned a lot in Ozimek's writings. She is very anti-censorship.

OrchidInTheSun · 04/08/2018 14:30

I know Rowan! Quite the conundrum isn't it?

VickyEadie · 04/08/2018 14:33

AIBU - or just paranoid - to say I'm getting the impression that a significant part of transactivism is massively lowering thresholds on pornography as well as safeguarding?