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Consultation of Equality Act enforcement open : Womens' and Equality Committee

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theOtherPamAyres · 30/07/2018 14:10

"We've heard that enforcement of the Equality Act isn't working. Today we're launching an inquiry to find out why not and what needs to change. If you have information that can help us answer these questions, you can find out more and submit evidence here:

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/women-and-equalities-committee/news-parliament-2017/enforcing-the-equality-act-launch-17-19/

Sounds like the City of London and other councils need to examine their policies of gender identity's primacy.

Hoorah

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Randomusername01 · 31/10/2018 19:14

The problem with that is that they are accepting the premise of twaw. And I guess under law they are right as the short hair lady says that those with a grc are protected as women under the equalities act (bar the few exceptions which appear to be so wooly trans activists have managed to frighten people into thinking they don't exist).

MrsAird · 31/10/2018 19:21

Thanks Pencils for extracting the links.

I thought all 3 speakers were fairly good, and very clear about the importance of retaining sex based exemptions.

Interestingly KM QC is absolutely sure that the part of the GRA which says "becomes a women (or man) for all purposes " has to be read subject to the sex-based exemptions, ie sex based exemptions trump a GRC.

There has not been any case law to determine this, and other lawyers don't think it is that clear cut, but one good result of this process might be if that is made totally clear.

I think the problem with what the speakers were saying, is that it doesn't address the cases where the 'risk' analysis is not central. Not the rape crisis centres, but the beauty salons who don't wish to offer a male-body service. Not the prisons, but the shop changing rooms, the swimming sessions, the women-in-business networks, the women's support groups.

And what about this creeping social trend to abandon sex based exemptions and use gender based definitions instead? The speakers haven't picked up on that at all. eg Swim England, Girl Guides, etc.

PencilsInSpace · 31/10/2018 20:24

I hope Karon Monaghan doesn't delete her account, I thought she was brilliant.

2rebecca · 03/12/2018 14:31

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arranbubonicplague · 03/12/2018 14:40

Thank you for posting the availability of the written evidence - looking forward to reading through them.

arranbubonicplague · 03/12/2018 14:41

As we read through, it might be helpful to post our observations here?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441533-Enforcing-the-Equality-Act-the-law-and-the-role-of-the-EHRC-inquiry

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