Pussy Riot pitch invasion

[speakingwoman]

So, whilst our idea of protest is an anti Trump carnival in London, this group invades the World Cup final knowing that prison and worse awaits, no doubt.

They can spoil my football enjoyment anytime. Truth is inconvenient.

If the Russian team had been in the final it would have made more sense. Russia was hosting the tournament but the final belonged to France and Croatia.

Do you not think the people of France and Croatia might have been hurt by this action at their World Cup Final?

Hornets! No.

I wonder if this is the first time Putin has been forced to see them?
An amazing achievement.

Putin kills dozens of rivals and has just relegalis3d domestic violence. Thes3 women are not the problem.

Putin has been using the world cup to "enhance" his reputation. Everyone else seems to have forgotten the human rights violations carried out by Putin and his government. What better than the final in the gaze of the world to remind everyone.

I hope the women are well treated. They are very brave.

No one in France or Croatia seems to be saying how hurt and upset they were by the protest. The French certainly don't think "their" World Cup was ruined given how many of them were out celebrating afterwards.

When discussing this World Cup in terms of football in future, no one will mention the brief interruption.

think the poster meant they were prepared to be hurt by the security guys who apprehended them. Not the footballers.

In fact one of the Croatian players tackled one of the protesters. What a brave man.

As this is the feminist board can give ourselves permission to Centre the cause for which Pussy Riot fight rather than football’s future?

Bread and circuses really does work on most people most of the time doesn’t it?

As this is the feminist board can give ourselves permission to Centre the cause for which Pussy Riot fight rather than football’s future?

It's a classic example of whataboutery. On a thread about the actions of a group of women, Pussy Riot, they come to say what about the men players.

Pussy Riot is not an exclusively female collective. Just saying.

Noted

And in other interesting Pussy Riot news, if you use Pussy Riot as the reference for a BACs transfer with Barclays you get a message saying "Please change your reference, it is incorrect". We had to change it to gig tickets to get it to go through.

Begs the question, would the same happen for cock party, or dick disco

I wasn't talking about the 'men players', I was talking about the people watching in the stadium and around the world on TV. What might be seen as some to be a legitimate protest at a world cup final would be utterly devastating to some watching the game. Imagine if England were playing and were 1-0 down to France? What do you think would have been in the media today?

Football is really important to a lot of people, men and women. I have already detailed above how Pussy Riot in their protest events have upset and harmed ordinary people in a museum and a church.

Yes their cause is an important one, but I don't have to agree or like the methods to which they go about highlighting it.

I want to like Pussy Riot. And I did when they firt made headlines. I don't think showing your body off in protest is necessarily porny. I think it depends on the context, women's bodies should simply be bodies. Women's breasts aren't porn. If #manfriday decides to a topless swim, I certainly wouldn't call it porn.

BUT Then I read that they were run by a bloke who chose the pretty ones to get their breasts out.

I can't agree that anyone would be utterly devastated. Perhaps mildly annoyed, irritated possibly.

Utterly devastating? Crumbs. Head wobble time I think.

Puts the level of bravery and heroics involved in peaceful protest in the UK rather into perspective though.

Arrest and high likelihood of years in Siberian forced labour jail vs being allowed to walk in front of a parade handing out leaflets for 20 mins in full view of the media, then left to your own devices to go home or to the pub for a gin while you get busy on social media.

We have great privilege here in rights to protest and to speak out, and take it for granted at times.

be utterly devastating to some watching the game

Really?
I mean, seriously?

Anyone got a link to a source that alleges anything about the dude who's in control and deciding who gets their tits out?

Wonder if you might be mixing pussy riot up with Femen. Not the same group, not affiliated.

Afaik pussy riot members and associates very rarely go topless as part of their art or protest, and there isn't anyone in charge, let alone a bloke.

"Yes their cause is an important one, but I don't have to agree or like the methods to which they go about highlighting it."

still waiting to hear what these other methods are in Putin's Russia.

I've got limited time for Pussy Riot. I think they reinforce gendered stereotypes and that their protests are pornified.

Have none of you noticed how England has gone absolutely nuts in the last few weeks because the England team got to a semi-final?

Seriously though, what was the point? I was listening to the match on the radio as I was too busy to watch it on TV. The commentators said something like 'oh there's been a pitch invasion' then a few minutes later 'apparently it was Pussy Riot'.

If you didn't know who Pussy Riot were (yes there are some people who have never heard of them or think they are just a pop group) you would be none the wiser as to why they did what they did. To me the purpose of protest is to get your message out, not just disrupt things and upset/irritate people. If you don't get the message out front and centre, how will people know the reason for what you are doing?

I'd also like to ask, could anyone tell me what the point of the group sex in a museum was about?

I remember reading about this in the Guardian in an interview with one of Pussy Riot members, but I can't remember if they said why they had done it.

People are really mixing up FEMEN with Pussy Riot. And the museum protest wasn't Pussy Riot either, it was a different organization which at the time one member of Pussy Riot was involved with.

Thanks Hornets.

Buttcrack:
Not even remotely porny or porn culture. You can dislike their tactics, but calling them porny is just a lazy slur.
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Wonder if you might be mixing pussy riot up with Femen. Not the same group, not affiliated.
Afaik pussy riot members and associates very rarely go topless as part of their art or protest, and there isn't anyone in charge, let alone a bloke.

I am not mistaken. The porny performance I had in mind was masturbating in a supermarket with a piece of raw chicken.

You may now eat your hat

They are both bad. Mindless stuff.

I'm always conflicted by these types of things.

It's easy to cheer when you support the cause, but I doing so we have to acknowledge that we'd be hypocrites for being annoyed about another cause interrupting an event we enjoy/support.

I mean imagine if a load of anti-fur protesters mobbed the Woman's March, for instance...
would people on here be accommodating or tearing strips off them?

The chicken supermarket incident was Voina, not Pussy Riot. One member of Voina is now a member of Pussy Riot. Does this mean that Pussy Riot are responsible for all of Voina's protests?