Transwomen have periods too you know! Just no bleeding

[OrchidInTheSun]

I give you the latest in batshittery:

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FFS

"we don't know how common it is in other genders"

WHAT??? Endometriosis is exclusive only to biological females. The only "other gender" (I think you mean sex) is male - the constituents of which do not have a uterus and so can not suffer from it.

This is just a sick joke, right? No-one actually thinks this??

I've just read the twitter feed on this. Utterly depressed to discover that I was nodding along in agreement with Anne Marie Walters. The world has gone mad!

My friend's horrendous cramping stopped completely when she had her womb removed. Just her womb. I think she forgot the other 'bits' that are supposed to cramp too Perhaps she's delusional?

This is one area where I draw the line. If you don't have a uterus and have therefore never had a period, you can't possibly know what having a period feels like it. Also that 'one missing element' is kind of crucial. Bleeding is a pretty major part of periods. I'm not saying the cravings/mood swings/cramps aren't important and don't have huge affects on people, but the bleeding is the consistent point. A trans girl is never going to experience the panic of getting her period and realising she hasn't got any sanpro. She's never going to have to worry about leakage. Anaemia because of heavy bleeding isn't going to be an issue.

I'm sure that trans women can experience abdominal cramping and maybe even PMS like symptoms. But no, it isn't a period. I mean they're welcome to periods, preferably mine, I'd be better off without it. Also, if it is only that day or two once a month, lucky her. I get the hunger a good week before, then I've got a ridiculously short temper and cramps when I'm on (also for about a week) and then I spend 3-7 days afterwards feeling completely exhausted.

I don't understand this need to make everything about trans women. It's okay for there to be some parts of being a woman that aren't relevant to them. It's okay to be different but equal. Not everything is about you!

I am apoplectic at the colonisation as the next woman, and as someone whose life was blighted by endometriosis and adenomyosis, I will shout till I'm blue in the face that these are afflictions that affect WOMEN...but

...there are cases in the medical literature of males having endo. Not transwomen, but rarely, it has been noted in passing (I believe at the point of autopsy) that masses with the characteristics of endo have been found in males.

What that does is not support the idea of menses in males, but in the metaplasic theory of endo, which is that some cells may change from one type of cell to another - eg, cells that would ordinarily function as part of the uterine lining can stray elsewhere in the body - and that is what causes endo.

And so ends the endo-geek sidebar! (when you are too sick to move because of it, you have a lot of time on your hands to read PubMed).

None of this has anything to do with trans issues. That is sheer biological colonialism. And they can jog on.

They can have mine any time. I'm fucking sick of them

Omg
I must not be a woman 😳
I've never had pmt, no period pains for 30 years
When I orgasm, is It an ejaculation and I didn't know?
I wear trousers a lot so may be a sign

Surely if this individual experiences regular cramping and unpleasant mood swings as a result of the hormones they're taking, a visit to a doctor is in order?

You can’t argue with stupid.

No one believes TW have periods. Not a single person.

Not their followers or the people responding to this in sympathy, not their family or friends - This person doesn't even truly believe they menstruate every month.

My oldest son doesn't believe in Santa anymore. I know he doesn't but he hasn't said it out loud yet so I will play along until he's ready.

People are simply playing along here too. As an adult, I would hate knowing that. This Bria person is fully aware that people are pretending.

Why not just talk about all the crap parts of taking hormones? I'm sure it must be hell on earth some days. That's real - Something so many people including women could relate too and talk about. Support even.

So in addition to having cramps in the uterus that they don't have trans women are now supposedly having trouble with the endometrium that they don't have either? Or is this meant to be about transmen?

I have an acquaintance who is a trans woman, I know they haven't yet started hormones or had any surgery as it's fairly recent but apparently they bleed sometimes?! I don't want to be too outing here but they said something along the lines of "I need to use sanitary products too because I bleed sometimes" I have no idea from where or why they are bleeding and I'm not brave enough to ask. Like what the fuck. This person often says batshit, radical trans cult type stuff, and also creepy tmi stuff about the knickers they like to wear etc... they peak transed me.

Also this is an excellent illustration of why humoring people's delusions isn't kind in the long run. If this person really is experiencing severe abdominal cramping and the various other symptoms they claim to have once a month then something is wrong, and they should see a doctor about it. As long as their belief that they're having a "period" is being validated they're unlikely to do so, which means that whatever is actually wrong is not being addressed.

Just noticing again, where are our familiar posters? From what I can see on this board they're still awake and commenting on other threads about what makes a woman. Just not here. About biology stuff!

Come on people. Join us. Counter our thoughts. Tell us why a transwoman's periods are a very valid thing. Otherwise we're just an echo chamber of females going 'huh, periods, that's a very specific female biology thing. That's one of the things that makes females different from males (even for females whose development makes their periods not happen/happen much more/differently from other females, still about periods - and I'm talking about things like PCOS here, not "oh, I seem to have accidentally developed a penis, hence my periods are different from your periods")!

Perhaps they need to be tagged..?

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read that.

I'm a bit saddened no one is taking this seriously.

Where is the humanity?

You show me the blood and I'll show you the humanity!

It's just occurred to me how quiet these type of threads are with counter opinions from some of the FWR regular posters. On so many other threads, familiar posters often appear by the third or fourth post to point out how females and the majority of posters on this board are wrong, biological sex is a social construct, transwomen are women. sex-segrated spaces are discriminatory, etc.

I had exactly the same thought. I'd love to hear what one of them think about this.

I worry that the younger generation will have a very tenuous grasp on human biology if its taboo to point out that the things trans people say are not factually correct...

Namechanged if you know a transwomen who regularly has unexplained bleeding please do encourage them to seek medical advice at the earliest opportunity.

So many women on that twitter thread bending over backwards to validate a delusional fantasy. Some are even claiming they have bloodless periods!

I don’t know whether I should be despairing at the failure of sex ed to impart basic knowledge of human anatomy. Or despairing at how desperate these women are for male approval that they’ll agree and support whatever absurdity is being claimed.

I had endometriosis and adenomyosis; funnily enough the monthly, cyclical, excruciating pain and heavy clotted bleeding went away after hysterectomy and being on an HRT that contains testosterone.
Does this mean?
A. I could still be having periods and not realise, as my uterus being in a bucket shouldn't be a barrier to that.
B. I'm actually male because I'm on testosterone?

RebelRogue

Oh FFS next you know they'll self diagnose with PCOS to justify the lack of bleeding.hmmhmm

You're too late. Pcos is really intersex which means that biological sex isn't binary dontchaknow... Which means that dudes can totally have periods and up is down and blue is red...
Remember when words used to mean things? Now they're just personal noises to screech on the interwebz.