Should straight men HAVE to sleep with transwomen?

[MandalaYogaTapestry]

Apologies if this has been raised and discussed but it only occurred to me now and I am genuinely curious.

So transactivists insist that lesbians should accept transwomen (most of whom still have male bodies and male organs) as sexual partners and that refusing to have sex with a dick is hate and bigotry.

On the same grounds, do transwomen also insist that heterosexual males should be fine about having relationships with them as they would with biological females, otherwise it's genitalia fetish?

Is this happening?

The answer to the question is "no". There's been a lot less effort to guilt trip straight men into doing so, probably because all but the most deluded realize that it's not going to work.

Speaking of that, Zinnia Jones did have a go at guilt tripping straight men into it on Twitter. It didn't go well.

(Anyone who has a link drop it here! Didn't save it.)

On the same grounds, do transwomen also insist that heterosexual males should be fine about having relationships with them as they would with biological females, otherwise it's genitalia fetish?

No because a lot of transwomen are also heterosexual males.

On the same grounds, do transwomen also insist that heterosexual males should be fine about having relationships with them as they would with biological females, otherwise it's genitalia fetish?

No, because they know they'd probably find out the true meaning of "literal violence" and all bullies pick on the person they think won't fight back.

Amazing how sexuality is stable pre and post transition, isn't it?!

No. I did see the thread that AngryAttackKittens mentions, but did not save it

Definitely a case of bullying women. (boak)

No one should have to sleep with anyone they don't want to.

MandalaYogaTapestry the reality of this is sadly Stright men are more than. happy. to sleep with us look at the popularity of trans porn. what they are. not willing to. do on the whole is actually be seen with us or be out to there firends about us and it is this perseption that needs to change because it is routinely getting us killed and assaulted around the world. so our focus on men is around stopping them doing that.

also no one should. force anyone to have sex with them no matter what.

You have sex with whoever you like regardless of gender

Yes, I don't understand that.

You are a straight male who identifies as a woman. You fancy women but not men.

The fact that you exclude men, isn't that transphobic?

Surely you'd also have to consider anyone who "identifies as a woman"? So men as well?

Our gay friends no longer use Grindr, because they can no longer filter out people who don't match their orientation.

I remember the thread on Twitter asking if men will sleep with transwomen. It was full of Jim Carey vomiting gifs and really nasty comments. No pile on by transactivists strangely, yet ten times worse than anything allowed here.

If they have online profiles which would otherwise interest a Guardian reading millenial type and they actually state on it they aren't interested in transwomen, then yes there are people who will send them messages telling them off. As I know from a man who used to have a profile like that - and that was several years ago before these things were as big a deal as they are now.

I kind of feel like it’s a pointless arguement used to push a point but has no basis in reality.
People are attracted to who they are attracted to. You can’t change attraction by calling people transphobic. It’s seriously screwed up to think you can and that it would help your cause.
The abuse that lesbians face from this quarter shocked me. There really are some deluded people with loud voices out there.

MyAuntyBadger I have been on many threads on. twitter over the years and defore that all the way back to the crying game. pointing out that this perseption of us needs to change it is one of the. biggest focuses of trans woman as it is the one that routinely. gets us assaulted by men.

I'm a straight man so I can say 'hell no!'

The crap that women are having to endure over this isn't funny, but the idea of trying it on us is a bit. (which speaks volumes about the inequality). It's not just that we'd say no, but that we'd refuse empathatically and firmly. and for my part verbally.

I can't speak for all men on that last bit. Certainly I wouldn't recommend a transwoman try groping a straight man on the train.

When India Willoughby was on Big Brother, IW tried it on with Ginuwine (a straight man) who rejected IW and further stated that he would not date a transwoman.

There was a huge thread on here at the time (hundreds of posts) and nobody criticised him for politely stating his stance. Nobody called him transphobic.

Popchyk to be fair that was India willaby though. but no he was not transphobic and neither are.any woman who are not attracted to trans woman. but neither are woman that are attracted to. trans woman attracted to men or men who are attracted to trans woman gay.

people are just attracted to who they are attracted to.

LastTrainEast it's this empathatically and firmly. that often leads to violance and in what world do you think we all go around feeling peoples bums. I think it's men that do that on trains well it was the last time it happened to me he got a very stern Paddington bear stare from me when he did too.

Well India Willoughby, when in CBB, certainly had a big, foot stamping tantrum and threw their weight about demanding that "Genuwine" should find them attractive and consider a relationship with them. Even grabbed him in for an attempted forced snog iirc.

I started to post that, then went and made toast for dd came back and posted it only to find IW has already been mentioned

Bespin
because it is routinely getting us killed and assaulted around the world.
Not in the UK though - safe in the uk. Safer than women are.

India Willoughby thinks that everyone should be in love with them. lol

So transactivists insist that lesbians should accept transwomen (most of whom still have male bodies and male organs) as sexual partners and that refusing to have sex with a dick is hate and bigotry.

A man who has sex with a transwomen isn't straight.

Thank you for all replies. Not surprised.

I think transwomen - having been men previously - would know full well that most heterosexual males would feel very strongly about NOT engaging with them on a romantic/personal level. And that no persuading that 'we are women!!!' will convince MALES.

So how can they feel correct and fair and justified in imposing this notion on FEMALES?

They claim to be logical on their approach but it does seem like trying to fight where they have more chances on winning.

Could this actually be a counter-action on women's part?

Like: ok, you are women, so let's include you on regular dating sites under 'women', let's actively name and shame males who don't want to date you, who won't dance with you in clubs, who won't accept you as women where their personal lives are concerned!

Dear transwomen, would you have the guts to fight against males for your inclusion to the same extent as you are fighting females?