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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbians protest at London Pride #getthelout

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miri1985 · 07/07/2018 12:58

twitter.com/hashtag/getthelout?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

www.facebook.com/346828442474237/posts/403582420132172/

These women are bloody brave, if I was wearing a hat I'd tip it to them

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Datun · 07/07/2018 15:30

Well quite. I'd like to say that it's unusual to see that level of debate, but in my experience, no it isn't.

Although there are usually fewer 'spitefuls and hatefuls' and a couple more 'cunts and bitches'.

Sarahconnor1 · 07/07/2018 15:30

Another tiresome GF winning us all over with their calm, rational and reason based arguments....

It reminds me of very young children who pop their heads round a door and shout 'poo poo head' over and over.............or is that just the children I knowGrin

littlbrowndog · 07/07/2018 15:30

Goal goal. Just saying goal goal

The footie

littlbrowndog · 07/07/2018 15:31

Oh feck going over to footie thread sorty

MrsPear · 07/07/2018 15:31

fairyqueen21 I And many others are still waiting for an answer. It is not transphobic to simply not fancy someone. For the vast majority of people body parts are an important part of sex. One question why do women who id as gay have to accept a penis whereas men who id as straight don’t?

Sarahconnor1 · 07/07/2018 15:31

littlbrowndog

Grin I'm watching

CosmicCanary · 07/07/2018 15:32

Anyone else feel ket down by Fairy?
I was hope for so much more.....oh well.

OunceOfFlounce · 07/07/2018 15:32

Wow, well done to the protesters Flowers Flowers Flowers

YourMajestyJ · 07/07/2018 15:33

Hey, GF, have a Snickers {===}

I think they've already got some nuts...

OddBoots · 07/07/2018 15:33

Given the threats of sadistic sexual violence women receive when they stand up for other women and lesbians in particular I would say these women are very brave.

Well done sisters. When we look at the strength of Storme DeLarverie when confronted by the police and (as bystanders attest) the Stonewall riots that as a result were triggered (and her later work as "guardian of lesbians in the Village.") we know that lesbians have always had to fight for their voices and safety, it's so sad that other women look the other way or even side with the attackers against them.

BeyondRaggydoll · 07/07/2018 15:33

Oh bollocks I missed a goal. You distracted me with your cunning, fairy

hipsterfun · 07/07/2018 15:35

These women are bloody brilliant and if they do it again next year I will happily lie down in solidarity with them. Assuming it would not be a sort of hijack is anyone up for forming a "second line" next year?

I await my draft card!

Can’t wait to hear more, Blythe.

FloralBunting · 07/07/2018 15:35

I suspect Fairy is distracting themselves from the football. You know how it is, one eye on Harry Kane's scoring boot, the other on a Mumsnet thread, the best any GF could manage would be short bursts of angry pejoratives...

AsAProfessionalFekko · 07/07/2018 15:35

Jesus - haven't they already fought the battle? Having to go again - fighting against, well it's male prejudice isn't it? Wish I'd seen it - I'dve been jumping up and down and waving.

MrsSteveMcDonald · 07/07/2018 15:35

fairyqueen21 do you consider a woman choosing whether she consents to sex a hate crime? Should women ever be allowed to say no to a straight male who identifies as a man and if so, why is it different if he says he's a woman?

Sarahjconnor · 07/07/2018 15:39

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TopBitchoftheWitches · 07/07/2018 15:39

a woman with a penis

Linning · 07/07/2018 15:40

I personally don't understand the point? Nobody is forcing anyone to date anyone. Yes you might be called transphobic if you refuse to date a trans person and is it okay? No, but who hasn't found themselves called names by a "good guy" who is pissed because "girls always go for assholes."

Whatever really.

You don't want to date a transwoman, don't date one. Would I date a pre-op transwoman? No. Would I date a post-op transwoman? I don't know, does that make me transphobic? Maybe. I personally don't think so but if someone else feels it does they are entitled to that opinion and them believing I am transphobic doesn't impact my life because I know I am 100% supportive of trans people and them getting the rights and protection they deserve.

Trans women are women in my point of view (and yes I know how controversial it is to feel that way on mumsnet) so stating lesbians are female homosexuals aren't actually offensive to me, but it seems like it comes from the point of view that most trans people are self-identified people who act, look and behave like straight men, when most trans people actually transition and take step towards transitioning. I don't see why I would see post-op transwoman as less of a lesbian than I would a "cis"-woman.

I personally wouldn't date a woman who is anti-trans, I won't go to pride holding a banner making a point of it. You don't want to date trans people? Don't. Hold your grounds about it but don't go to pride on a day where people of all orientations are supposed to come together making (trans) people feel unwelcome. It's a really shit way to go about things really.

Tanith · 07/07/2018 15:40

Is PinkNews beginning to peak? That’s an awfully mild report compared to some of its past rantings.

abbsisspartacus · 07/07/2018 15:41

Okay so answer me this as a heterosexual woman if I get into a relationship with a man go to get intimate with him and find out he is ummm hung like a horse? And i say no thanks thats not for me or he suggests something im not comfortable with i can say no BUT if i were a lesbian and i was in a relationship with a woman i find out she has a penis i say nope not for me im transphobic is that about right?

terryleather · 07/07/2018 15:42

Yes Sarah it's tiresome when a toddler does it but at least it's forgivable due to age...this, not so much Grin

Datun · 07/07/2018 15:44

Linning

Have you actually seen why lesbians want to take the L out?

Do you have any idea of the pressure that, particularly young lesbians, are under? To accept men as partners?

This is the leaflet the lesbians were handing out.

It's a fraction of what they are subjected to.

Lesbians protest at London Pride #getthelout
Lesbians protest at London Pride #getthelout
CosmicCanary · 07/07/2018 15:44

Hold your grounds about it but don't go to pride on a day where people of all orientations are supposed to come together making (trans) people feel unwelcome. It's a really shit way to go about things really.

The only group made to feel unwelcome were the 10 lesbians.

abbsisspartacus · 07/07/2018 15:44

Stop fucking calling me a cis-woman pretty fucking please it offends me

terryleather · 07/07/2018 15:44

*Hey, GF, have a Snickers {===}
*
I think they've already got some nuts...

I have just snorted shandy out my nose thanks to that comment...Grin