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How police mishandled one of the worst cases of domestic abuse ever seen in Wales.

47 replies

HelenaDove · 02/07/2018 18:25

Warning...............its a very hard heartbreaking read. And shes not even being allowed to read the full report from the investigation of what went wrong............parts have been redacted.

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/how-police-mishandled-one-worst-14847184

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MistressDeeCee · 02/07/2018 22:09

Why aren't those police officers in jail too? Why?

They left her to be tortured by that sadistic monster, that filth. & I bet they're home with their wives and families.

This world makes me sick. There is nowhere women are safe.

ElizabethS22 · 02/07/2018 22:12

That’s absolutely awful :( so hard to read.
I don’t know if I missed it, but did her baby survive?
Makes you sick to think there is people like him out there, disgusting.

Prestonsflowers · 02/07/2018 22:18

I used to work for the South Wales police in 1975, most of them were misogynistic bastards then. Looks like nothing has changed.
I hope Charlotte can rebuild her life, what has happened to her is dreadful, awful, disgusting, shocking but some how not surprising. Men like those policemen will always minimise the damage done to women.
The woman PC should feel throughly ashamed of herself-but she won’t

BlackeyedSusan · 02/07/2018 23:33

yep, south wales do not give a fucking shit about domestic violence. (well the one I encountered anyway when ex bounced a bottle off the back of my head)

thankfully I am ok, not like poor charlotte.

donajimena · 02/07/2018 23:48

blackeyed I lived in the same postcode as Charlotte at the same time as she was going through this. I was suffering from domestic abuse and felt it was trivialised by the officers.I must stress it was not even on the same scale as this poor woman. By the time they had visited I thought I was the one with the problem.... absolutely shocking.

Melanippe · 03/07/2018 01:05

“Lessons will be learned”

When?

Were they learned after my friend was blinded in one eye by her husband after a neighbour called the police and the police apologised to her husband for bothering him?

Were they learned when another woman was hospitalised by her husband and the police told her that they could arrest him, but he’d just be bailed back home?

Were they learned after every twice weekly murder of a woman by her partner or ex?

When you have police officers tell you that if a woman doesn’t leave, then it can’t be that bad really?

What lessons will be learned and who will be learning them?

HelenaDove · 03/07/2018 01:13

Oh good God.

There were a few of us trying to point out the problems with class on the Lush thread but it was a waste of time.

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ResistanceIsNecessary · 03/07/2018 08:14

God don't read the comments under the DM article. Apparently she should take responsibility for the fact that she lied to the police and didn't just run away. Yeah, because domestic violence is that straightforward...

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 03/07/2018 08:17

refresher fucking training?

To arrive at a house, find a woman with fresh bruises, and not speak to her, not to record it so when it was reported again, you still bloody did nothing? REFRESHER TRAINING!!!

I feel like this should be treated the same way they treat things like corporate manslaughter now - that you are personally responsible. I feel like if the procedures are there, if you didn't follow them (even though in this case, the requirements were tiny, a minimum of effort could have saved this woman so much earlier), then you need to answer for that, and not with bloody refresher training.

AngelsSins · 03/07/2018 14:11

I just don’t think a lot of police, or the courts, care about women. I saw something on tv about Mick Philpott recently, and one of his ex girlfriends talked about the abuse she suffered at his hands at just 17. When she split up with him, he came to her house and stabbed her 27 times. Then he stabbed her mother 11 times, with such force that the knife went right through her body and came out the other side. He then went back to the girl and slit her open from chest, down through her stomach. She also had collapsed lungs, and punctured liver, kidneys and liver.

Amazingly they both survived, but both have had serious complications from the wounds. The woman who was 17 at the time had to have a hysterectomy because of her injuries, robbing her the chance of ever having a baby.

He got 7 years, 7! And did he serve them all? Course not, he was out in 3 years, 2 months.

If that doesn’t send a clear message to women about how little they are valued by society, nothing does.

HelenaDove · 03/07/2018 14:43

Angels Angry Shock

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SardinesAreYum · 17/07/2018 23:11

They're often only interested when we're dead, and sometimes then barely.

A distressing read I try to read the stories of I can out of respect to the victims for telling it. Hard though.

That response re maybe doing a bit of training shows they still don't think they did anything wrong. Imo.

Typeractive · 18/07/2018 08:58

South Wales Police are a vile misogynist, classist organisation. I've twice been told, by two different people, of sexual abuse of 'delinquent' teenage girls perpetrated by their front line officers.

I'm in awe of Charlotte's strength and resolve. But that she should have to involve herself in this struggle rather than focussing solely on her recovery is in itself appalling. Much love to her. Flowers

LaSquirrel · 18/07/2018 09:52

“Lessons will be learned”

Sure. If I had a pound for every time I have heard that from officers under investigation for DV failings, I would be living in the Bahamas by now.

Nothing changes. It just never does. This was 2013. I have been tracking DV femicides for about 15 years, and hear this over and over again. 500 DV femicides since Charlotte's case. Nothing changes, the stats have not moved at all in 20 years.

In the time that I have been tracking these DV femicides, the cases that 'get' to me, are the police failing/inaction ones. The woman is usually on record as saying "he's going to kill me if you don't arrest him". They don't arrest him. She gets killed a very short time later. It was preventable.

The 'failings' continue. The femicides continue. Unabated.

I am so glad she made it out. She very nearly did not.

The sentence is a joke. He will kill the next woman. They are serial offenders, all of them, until they get locked up for life.

Allthatsnot · 18/07/2018 10:27

This happens quite regularly, the only reason we are hearing about this one is because, quite incredibly, Charlotte is still alive. Usually the victim is dead and is just another statistic.

VulvaOfSteel · 18/07/2018 10:59

I know we aren't meant to say it but I do hope gets a good fucking dose of the same in prison.

BlooperReel · 18/07/2018 11:39

Not giving her the full report is the final insult in this whole appalling, monumental fuck up. Poor woman, I do hope she is able to find some peace, stability and that her baby is ok.

As for him, I hope he drops the soap in the prison showers. Angry

SirVixofVixHall · 18/07/2018 15:29

Oh good God AngelSin, three years and two months ? I felt sick reading that. How is a man who has done that allowed to ever be free again ? Should be a life sentence.

SirVixofVixHall · 18/07/2018 15:35

Agree LaSquirrel. These men never change. Only being locked up will prevent a man like this from torturing and killing a woman. 💔

SardinesAreYum · 18/07/2018 16:02

I don't want him to be raped I want him locked the fuck up for as long as it takes to:

a. be a decent punishment for what he did and
b. to genuinely not longer be any sort of danger to anyone at all

And if that's forever then soo be it.

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