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Womanfest, except it's not

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pachyderm · 01/07/2018 09:39

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/30/women-fest-first-man-free-festival-sisterhood-song

"All women are welcome at the festival, says Jacout, including transgender women and pre-operative individuals. "We're also happy to have non-binary people provided they have a vagina; but not non-binary people with a penis, because we have to draw the line somewhere"

What line? You've just said "pre-operative individuals" ffs! I'm so tired of this.

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hungryhippie · 01/07/2018 15:34

Thanks for the link Prawn all I can say is, what the actual fck???? I didn't know whether to get angry or cry reading that.
How fcking dare they!!!!!
Well that's me peaked, all over again Angry Angry

Iloveirnbru · 01/07/2018 15:40

I'm sensing it's not my kind of thing, especially with the drums

To be fair, I think even the TRA's will be giving this one a miss.....
It sounds fucking awful

OlennasWimple · 01/07/2018 15:41

I read "pre-operative individuals" to mean "transmen who has not yet had penis construction surgery" (they can't use the word "transman" because they've said it's for women only and they can't use the word "woman" because transmen reject that they are women)

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/07/2018 15:44

It's all just rubbish isn't it? I'm not even referring to who or who isn't able to attend but it really is vacuous nonsense.

There is more of it on the link below. It's as if ^Viz' had asked Kate Aldridge from the Archers to be the guest editor of "Milly Tant" and Kate doesn't realise it's a parody.

The Festival - WOMAN FEST
www.womanfest.co.uk/the-festival1.html

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/07/2018 15:52

I know, Hungry. Many of the women who had gone back to what they called The Land year after year - some for decades - are still heartbroken, and I can see why. Sounds as if it was amazing for women, particularly for lesbians.

Camp Trans, set up nearby, was full of AGP bullies who either tried to disrupt Michfest openly or infiltrated and then posted proud selfies.

misscockerspaniel · 01/07/2018 15:55

You couldn't make this up, could you. I only wish the BBC would televise it.

WanderingWavelet · 01/07/2018 16:07

I'm starting to "come out" as non-binary & gender non-conforming as often as I can now.

I mean, I earn more than most men I know. I have more status and privilege. I wear trousers (or dresses, whichever I feel like when I wake up). I boss people about, and people defer to me at work. I'm at the top of a male-dominated profession.

I could go on, but you know, I'd get big-headed with how important & woke I am Hmm Blush

We should all identify as non-binary. Because it's a stupid useless category. Most people are gender non-conforming non-binary. We're human, with variety and difference (which is what is fabulous about each & every single person).

newtlover · 01/07/2018 16:16

agree with Lass's description
there's a lot of stuff in there about red tents. sacred womb energy and womb shamanism....I suspect they haven't really thrashed this one out, can't see how someone who has never had a womb is going to get on in the red tent- surely no amount of mental gymnastics can make that stack up

ErrolTheDragon · 01/07/2018 16:21

Yes
"Genderqueer, also known as non-binary, is a catch-all category for gender identities that are not exclusively masculine or feminine‍—identities which are outside the gender binary and cisnormativity. Genderqueer people may express a combination of masculinity and femininity, or neither, in their gender expression."

We're a binary species with regard to to sex but analog with regard to 'gender', with some traits tending towards 'feminine' and some 'masculine' to various degrees.

Except most of us are grownups who CBA to have a 'gender identity' rather than a character.

buttyblahblah · 01/07/2018 16:26

Groundcontrol I just ate steamed pork dumplings, I can only think of tiny steamed testicles now. It's not pretty.

groundcontroltomontydon · 01/07/2018 16:27

O Is this the way they say the future's meant to feel, or just [150] people [drumming] in a field?

Pratchet · 01/07/2018 16:39

This is so funny. Maybe acronym won't want to attend, what with them being so welcome, and it might actually turn into an all woman event!

Alternatively one gift from the TRA is to to attend these womb-drumming festivals while women themselves are so put off, they are pulled back to pull real activism.

WanderingWavelet · 01/07/2018 16:58

I wonder what it means to FULLY identify as a woman

Clearly, ensuring that you're paid 15% less than your [male] peers. On transition, you need to give back 15% of your salary, take on 80% of the household work, 100% of the emotional labour, and still worry that you're not doing enough.

Except ... this is not what transwomen actually do.

HermioneWeasley · 01/07/2018 17:05

She’s sold 150 tickets ?!

littlbrowndog · 01/07/2018 17:11

On the plus side there is yoni massageWink

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/07/2018 17:14

She’s sold 150 tickets?

To Kate, Helen and Pat. One has been bought for Phoebe too but Phoebe will go awol on the day or make sure Roy signs her up for shifts at Grey Gables she can't get out of.

Kate will offer the ticket to Lexi who will refuse with that special Bulgarian harumphing sound she uses when people are talking nonsense. Emma will spontaneously combust when she hears there are idiots willing to pay £225 for this.

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/07/2018 17:19

Kate's plans for goat yoga have been thwarted so vaginal steaming will be added to the list of treatments.

Brian will be rendered speechless; Jennifer will be too embarrassed to mention it in front of Jill or Peggy who will find out nevertheless and think it sounds a real hoot and sign up for it.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/07/2018 17:29

Lass - that sounds much more fun than the actual thing.Grin(and has reminded me I'm way behind on my TA podcasts...)

TheTroutofNoCraic · 01/07/2018 17:42

Leaving aside the bonkers and confusing inclusive/exclusive admittance policy...£225 for no entertainment (unless you or others provide the entertainment) and you are expected to 'help out' in the kitchen.

I can cook and do wafty interpretive dance, whilst hovering my fanny over a bowl of steaming broccoli water at home, for free.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 01/07/2018 17:49

I can cook and do wafty interpretive dance, whilst hovering my fanny over a bowl of steaming broccoli water at home, for free.

Shock show off! Grin

Couldn't pay me £225 to go...

LoafEater · 01/07/2018 18:05

£225 and I have to make my own entertainment and bloody cook for people with willies!?!? I do that at home for free. Glastonbury is about £300 isn’t it?! What a load of toss!

Sarahconnor1 · 01/07/2018 18:14

I can cook and do wafty interpretive dance, whilst hovering my fanny over a bowl of steaming broccoli water at home, for free

Bloody hell, do be careful. I don't know how you would explain that at a&e if you had a mishap.

TheTroutofNoCraic · 01/07/2018 18:30

Bloody hell, do be careful. I don't know how you would explain that at a&e if you had a mishap.

I know, not everyone can be as #WokeAF as we are.

UpstartCrow · 01/07/2018 18:55

It like students who have heard of Butlins but missed the part where its supposed to be fun.

busyboysmum · 01/07/2018 19:11

I can cook and do wafty interpretive dance, whilst hovering my fanny over a bowl of steaming broccoli water at home, for free.

I'm coming to your festival sounds way better. Can we smuggle in booze and watch you?