Heads up to all ManFriday members

[SwearyG]

Our membership list has been leaked online.

Please do what you need to in order to keep yourselves safe.

I'm confused - it's like everyone knows what's happening and who everyone is in RL and who did the leaking and who is mocking on Twitter, but I haven't' the foggiest!

I don't think I'm on any list...

Trying to "out" people online is a nasty, cowardly thing to do though

oleannas

I agree, I'm in the same position

I dont know if i signed that petition, i doubt it as im quite lazy

I find Sandy’s drawing quite defamatory - sprouts are great (so long as you don’t overlook them then they are vile)

*over cook

Same again here. I'm not on twitter or FB so don't know anybody. Just what I pick up here in threads.

SwearyG, I am sorry to hear the news about ManFriday. You and Amy are absolute stars and I salute you.

I dont know if i signed that petition, i doubt it as im quite lazy

I can't remember either. I definitely saw it bit if I remember rightly there was a bit of a controversy about it and I can't remember what I decided at the time. The group was full of dramas and I unfollowed.

Amy Desir Tweet 26/6/18 :

"@ManFRIDAY_ Twitter leak statement: a screenshot from the #ManFriday group was published on Twitter today as 'proof' that the group is 'transphobic'. The screenshot showed nothing transphobic but has led us to take security measures to protect our members' privacy. (1)

I am furious that someone has taken it upon themselves to sneak into a group of women to report back on their activities. The supposed 'evidence' is really scraping the barrel and publishing it is clearly yet another attempt to silence women speaking about their own rights. (2)

#ManFriday was set up to illustrate the absurdities and injustices of sex self-ID policies. We will continue to do so in good humour and will the rights, safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls at the heart of everything we do."

twitter.com/akmd87/status/1011544791367258112

Guessing my name and such is floating around twitter right now because of this. I genuinely do not care what excuses the leaker has, I think they are a fucking disgrace.

There will be more..I assume. As if we don't have enough to worry about with the narcissistic rage of TRAs (which is still going to step up a hell of a lot..not looking forward to that at all), now there are people claiming to be GC doing the same shit. And all because women want to fight for their own rights, its really quite pathetic to be behaving this way because women refuse to roll over and submit

Most of the names listed have at least 50 others with the same names on Facebook.

Those who don't do social media are far from fine on this. I'm not on Twitter but I was able to see the names. To be honest I googled a few and loads of profiles came up, even profiles of people who were not on social media!

Hello everyone,

As a follow-up to Sweary’s post, this is what has happened and what we’re doing about it:

• A person who we have had concerns about for several months appears to have joined the #ManFriday group using a sock account/ been passed screenshots by a sympathiser. They then had a screenshot posted on Twitter by a TRA account.
• The #ManFriday admin team took action to remove over 100+ people from the group: anyone who had not been actively posting or who had joined the group recently.
• We then explained on here, on the FB group and to the people directly affected what had happened. The post from the FB group was then taken by this person, we assume, and we received a message via the #ManFriday website threatening police action. This person also posted a couple of rants on the Mumsnet thread, which were swiftly deleted by MNHQ as from a PBP.
• This person then published the stolen #ManFriday membership list (incomplete), which was tweeted by a TRA account. We were made aware of this PDQ, reported the tweets and alerted then closed the group as we couldn’t be sure of our members’ privacy.
• This person then set up a couple of Twitter accounts to direct accusations at Mumsnet and #ManFriday. As the Tweets indicated that the person was threatening self-harm and behaving erratically, I called the police, who conducted a welfare check.
• Statements have been made to the police today.
• The IPO are also being contacted today, as a precaution. It’s Facebook who holds the leaked data rather than us but we want to do the right thing.
• We’re contacting the people on the list as quickly as we can but as we aren’t FB friends with everyone, it’s not a simple exercise. Sweary posted on here to try to get the message out quickly to as many people as possible.

It’s a crap situation and I’m so sorry to everyone who’s worried or who is now being targeted online. Tweets targeting people’s employers are being reported as soon as we spot them.

If anyone is worried in particular, please do send me a FB message and I’ll try to respond ASAP.

I remember being forced to eat my sprouts on Christmas day. How horrible is that?

I don't like them, don't force me to eat them.

Which is why I don't do sprouts on Christmas day. I do love cabbage though!

Can someone DM me a link to the list pls? I've tried searching on Twitter for it but can't see it (I dont' really "do" Twitter)

Well done YesItsaDebate - thanks for the update. It’s a lot of pressure on you all and it’s awful it’s happened. Thanks for being concerned about the members and taking the time to post.

Placemats "This is a private group on Facebook. It's a serious breach of the terms of conditions to belonging to Facebook a box you must sign in order to create a profile"

Can you enlarge on this bit? Trying to understand the fb group side of things. It's relevant for anyone who is a member of or running an fb group I think.

Do you mean that there's a Facebook t&c that says if you are a member of a fb group you are specifically prohibited from disclosing the names of other members? If yes, does that's apply only to certain types of fb groups, like closed or secret?

I'd like to find this t&c because if it's there then it's pretty important and ought to be more widely known about. I mean, the things that have been shared here, fb profile name and public profile info, are public, so it's just the group membership that's been disclosed in effect. I'm not aware of any official obligation in group members to not disclose the fb names of other group members at this point, but if I've missed that somewhere I'd really like to know!

Not condoning the actions in any way, to be clear. Screenshotting closed or secret group content is certainly not ok, and in most groups would get you immediately chucked out, but I'm not sure it's actually against fb t&c.

This has come up before I think, where a secret fb group has been screenshotted, and used to show that someone had been libellous towards, I think, a member of staff at a school. I can't remember the details though, long time ago. My recollection is that if you put something in an fb group you cannot consider it to be properly private, but now I'm not sure.

All sorts of implications for fb groups here.

As an aside too, there are some legal explorations going on right now with fb in europe to establish whether group admins have any responsibility in GDPR terms. Last update I hadn't was that at present time they are considered to be neither a processor nor a controller as a group admin, and that fb itself wa controller and processor for group content and membership in that circumstance.

Thanks Sweary and Yes. You're both doing sterling work and I'm sorry you've been targeted like this

THanks for the update Yes- such a shame that on such a gloriously sunny day you, Sweary and others are having to deal with this.

Thanks Yes.

Suggestion: if you're struggling to contact us all, would if help if those of us who are on here & have seen your posts, PM you to say 'I'm X on FB, already aware, you can cross me off the list to contact'?

Or does that just give you something else to trawl through?

I get some might be concerned about MN data security with linking MN & FB names, so probably best only those of us who are 'out & proud' on FB...

But I agree bespin with you fully, noone should be pointing anyone towards the list.

Last night this thread did describe which Twitter hastag had the list, essentially publicising its location. I think that post has been tidied up now.

Super No one reads the T&C's, they merely tick the box.

Perhaps because you can't sign up to create a profile unless you tick the box.

Regardless, the majority of the names on the doxxed list are just names. The majority of those names will share that name with hundreds of others on social media, including google/gmail.

Lisa Muggeridge:
idgeofreason.wordpress.com/2018/06/29/man-friday/

I think that post has been tidied up now. You think? What does 'tidied up' mean?

A person who we have had concerns about for several months appears to have joined the #ManFriday group using a sock account/ been passed screenshots by a sympathiser. They then had a screenshot posted on Twitter by a TRA account

This part still puzzles me. I don't expect you to answer this but screenshots of what?

As far as I can make out whatever was in that screenshot has, whether justified or not , upset someone. The upset seems to be because an inner circle of FM was talking behind this person's back; which brings me back to my earlier point that if there was concerns about someone for several months why we're those concerns expressed beyond the very core administration group?

Again I don't expect you to answer this.

Last night this thread did describe which Twitter hastag had the list, essentially publicising its location. I think that post has been tidied up now

Yes Snappity - who posted that? I'm virtually illiterate on how social media works yet I found it within minutes from the hint given.