Article on the side-effects of Lupron

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Mayday 4 Women shared this. Whilst its use for transitioning is not mentioned, it is known to be widely used to delay puberty as part of the transitioning process.

www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/

Worth reading and absolutely raises questions about the long term implications and safety associated with Lupron. This suggests that "watch and wait" would be prudent for prepubescent children who identify as trans.

When my mother had her hip operation she had a metal joint fitted. She - and everyone else - still referred to it as her hip.

Sigh indeed.

Those reading it might wish to take into account that he uses the wrong pronouns

Of course, the ability to use the correct pronoun for the relevant sex is a fairly critical skill I can't see where in the piece Laidlaw uses incorrect pronouns though?

The point here is; a transplant is where you remove a damaged/diseased organ and replace it with a donated one the same. In the kind of surgery where a neovagina is made there is no organ to be transplanted. An artificial vagina is made with peni and scrotal skin. Sometimes other tissue is used. The result is an artificial vagina. The urethra is shortened and moved and the glans of the penis made into a clitoris. A woman cannot have this type of surgery as she already has what the surgeon makes.

they’re an extremely blunt tool and have effects all over the body

When I read that I immediately thought about thalidomide.

This is some scary shit we're doing to healthy kids.

Those reading it might wish to take into account that he uses the wrong pronouns

Dr. Laidlaw sounds like a rational human being.

You gotta laugh, I mean come on. Someone posts about a respected endocrinologist and another poster moans about him using the wrong pronouns.

Not a clitoris like this though Spontaneous

It has only been mentioned in passing that these types of drugs are used - often successfully - to treat endometriosis. They create a fake menopause, stopping periods and thus stopping the disease from spreading. But it is extraordinarily hard to get on a long-term course - in fact it may be impossible on the NHS. I'm guessing this is partly for cost reasons, but the long-term side effects must be a concern. Yet they are handing it out to children!

I consider myself lucky to have been put on GnRH drugs in my 40s (by a private gynae, for endometriosis) because while the side effects are not pleasant it has greatly improved my quality of life by controlling previously unmanageable daily pain. A close eye is kept on me and I have regular dexa scans to make sure my bones are ok. To me they are a wonder drug - I spent the 4 years before I started them in an opiate haze because the only thing doctors were doing to help was chucking pain-killers at me.

These are serious drugs. Either they are not safe for anyone which is why they are not given long-term to women with endometriosis. In which case it is certainly not safe to give them to children or people with lady feelz. If they are safe they need to go first to the women who are suffering, with appropriate monitoring, rather than just being given to those who shout the loudest.

Who is monitoring and keeping records of the effects this kind of drug is having on children?

No one. When drugs are used off label like this, you rely on either the prescribers reporting side effects or the patients themselves via the yellow card system.

When you have so much reputation/ideology bound up in taking these drugs, reporting becomes biased (this is well known in pharmacovigilance)

So in effect nobody is monitoring them. Nobody has put this past an ethics committee. Nobody is checking from an oversight perspective. Nobody.

Nobody is looking at this from an expert but non involved oversight perspective. It’s the Wild West.

There are multiple laws and rules with huge penalties ranging from fines to criminal penalties to prevent this being done in a commercial context. In private practice, there appears to be very little.

It is an absolute scandal.

OddBoots The down-regulators in ivf had an awful effect on my mental health too.

If this is what menopause may be like for me, I’m not looking forward to it!

I find the off-label use of these drugs on children with perfectly healthy bodies really worrying. Who in their right mind thinks this is ok?

When they defend and promote the use of these drugs on kids, they show why they're called "transactivists" rather than 'trans advocates'. Anyone who believed in the concept of "trans kids" and was genuinely advocating for the well-being of children they consider "trans"*, would be appalled at the idea of using those same kids as guinea pigs.

Big pharma supplying drugs to be used off-label, thus evading responsibility when it all goes arse-up, clinics selling 'scrips via "informed consent" so as kids' rights are waived, shills all over the internet, in forums, on Twitter and YouTube, telling teens where to buy cheap 'blockers' and hormones online, coaching them in what to say, to who, to get what they want...

-They're the very people that real trans advocates should be campaigning against, in effort to protect those kids. Real advocates would be saying "This is not good enough! Our trans children deserve better!".

Transactivists, however, aren't advocates. Not for kids anyway.

GC posters on MN, Endocrinologists, and other people speaking up for sanity and the safety of children: "There are no long-term safety tests for these drugs on children, and we are concerned about the possible side-effects they may have, and the real possibility of harm."

Transactivists: "You've used the wrong pronouns, which is literal violence."

WHY DOES ANYONE TAKE THEIR ARGUMENT SERIOUSLY.

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Some very important points. It seems that few responsible adults are advocating for this group of children. Very worrying.