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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I am S p a r t a c u s

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 13/06/2018 18:53

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something a man can never be.

I am a woman.

People refer to me has her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.

I am a woman.

Something a male will never be.

I have a vagina and uterus.

I menstruate and have given birth.

I am a mother.

Something a male will never be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, terrorised, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something a male can never be.

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a male claims to be a woman or anyone says a male can be female.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am Spartacus.

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ToeToToe · 14/06/2018 14:43

Thoughtcrime Rufus Wink They'll find a way to have us for that soon enough...

AltogetherAndrews · 14/06/2018 14:45

I am Spartacus

My reality is not a costume that others can wear.

I will not be told what I may think or say. Fuck that.

foolonthehill · 14/06/2018 14:52

I am a woman
I am a scientist
For the first time ever, I am Spartacus
I reject "gender identity" and embrace person-hood.
I fear a future where we cannot say someone is male and a man whatever they wear, or whatever surgery they have and however they feel.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 14/06/2018 14:58

I am a woman.
I to am a scientist
An I also, for the first time am saying, I am Spartacus!

I accept and even encourage all people in wearing whatever gender identity they may feel comfortable in.

I do not accept, nor do I wish to be forced to bear, the indignation of having to lie about biology.

I will not simply step aside whilst a vocal, aggressive group of men appropriate my sex and my safe spaces.

Biology, as they say, is not bigotry!

AltogetherAndrews · 14/06/2018 15:02

Can anyone here imagine the response if civil rights activists had been told to be more polite and stop offending white people.

anotherpersona · 14/06/2018 15:24

Born a girl, die female.
Born a boy, die male.

You have a right to express your feelings and wear what you want free of discrimination. If we meet I'll call you by your preferred name.
I will still see you as born male because while you may be beautiful and tape things up or down my survival instinct will tell me.
I have a right to stick to the truth that biology matters.

I am Spartacus.

MrSlant · 14/06/2018 15:50

I am a woman. I am a scientist. From our chromosomes to the shape of our bones womanhood is written through us like a stick of rock and you cannot identify in or out of that,

I will NOT be made scared to say this.

I am Spartacus.

LadyLance · 14/06/2018 15:55

I am Spartacus.

I was born with XX chromosomes, a womb, vulva and ovaries. I have female secondary sexual characteristics, such as breasts (which I grew myself) and curves and no facial hair and a higher pitched voice.

I am not a mother, but I could be one day. I bear the burden of having to take hormonal contraception so that I do not get pregnant with a child I could not look after right now.

Since the age of 10 I have suffered from sexual harassment and males trying to make me feel uncomfortable because I am a woman.

I have no doubt been discriminated against and faced difficulties because I am a woman.

Gender is a social construct but since being a young teen I have felt the pressure to perform femininity. Sometimes I wish I could opt out.

Everyone should be free to wear what they like and act how they like without fear of discrimination or violence- but there needs to be safe spaces for those of us who are biologically female. We need to keep distinctions between sexes for statistical purposes to protect both sexes.

So yes, I am Spartacus, and I've wavered for at least a year between being scared and angry on this issue and this board was one of the last safe spaces I felt I had to discuss this- and I am so scared of that being taken away.

sillage · 14/06/2018 16:10

I am a woman.

Humans come in two reproductive sexes, male and female, and humans can't change their sex.

Women are oppressed by men because of our biological reality as the sole creators of new people.

I am a radical feminist.

I am Spartacus.

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 14/06/2018 16:37

Who was Spartacus?

I have just googled him.

Spartacus was a man

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 14/06/2018 16:45

myrelationship

Grin

I missed that one!!

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 14/06/2018 16:52

I have just googled him

Sorry, but GrinGrinGrin

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 14/06/2018 17:04

Like someone else earlier in the thread, my first post here on Mumsnet said "I am Spartacus". And I still lurk much more than I post. I have learned so much here from so many women.

I'm a woman, not a costume. Humans cannot change sex.

I am still Spartacus.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 14/06/2018 17:27

You have to ask yourself, to paraphrase Blur,

You will never understand
How it feels to live your life
With no meaning or control
And with nowhere left to go.
You are amazed that they exist
And they burn so bright,
Whilst you can only wonder why.
Rent a flat above a shop
Cut your hair and get a job
Smoke some fags and play some pool
Pretend you never went to school,
But still you'll never get it right
'Cause when you're laid in bed at night
And watching roaches climb the wall,
If you called your dad he could stop it all
Yeah.

You either are or you aren't.

chicklingpixies · 14/06/2018 17:32

^Pulp but yeah totally

AsAProfessionalFekko · 14/06/2018 17:34

Im having a Father Ted moment there...!

Clarabumps · 14/06/2018 17:40

So I think I might flounce off, I'm so disappointed in Mumsnet.
Where do I go to read feminist debate now? Any ideas ?

Writersblock2 · 14/06/2018 17:40

I am Spartacus. I am a woman. My sex matters, damn it. You can not erase me.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 14/06/2018 17:55

I am a woman. Men cannot be women. No one can change sex.

Biology is not bigotry. I am Spartacus.

Amalfimamma · 14/06/2018 17:58

Where do I go to read feminist debate now? Any ideas ?

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AsAProfessionalFekko · 14/06/2018 18:01

When I was little I really really really wanted to be a witch (like the mum in Bewitched). I wanted is soooooo much. I would pretend that I could move things by twitching my nose or concentrating really hard. Or that I could be invisible or fly.

I also really wanted it to be true that my toys came to life when they were alone and that our cats could talk English.

Then I grew up and realised that no amount of wishes could change the fact that I wasn't a witch, wouldn't even be a witch and no amount of pretending or saying so could change that.

Still not sure about cats though...

ThisisSparta · 14/06/2018 18:04

I am Spartacus.

Woman is not a feeling or a costume.
Womanhood is not something you can opt into - or out of.
When it comes to any women’s rights issues then I stand in solidarity with all women- of all races, of all religions, of all classes. I stand in solidarity with women I disagree with, I stand in solidarity with women I don’t like, and who don’t like me.

Men cannot be women. Any person born male cannot be female and I will not recognise them as such.

I am Spartacus.

ScrubTheDecks · 14/06/2018 18:14

I am a woman.
I am female
I identify as a woman
I identify as female.
I welcome people who do not fit a mould, who break out of gender constraints, who cannot live in a hetero normative narrow channel.
I am willing to accept any expression of gender.
I am happy to be inclusive of all expressions of gender.
I am not willing to be told that my sex is not my sex.
That those with the DNA and physical attributes of a male should feel entitled to run the same race as me and win because of their sexual make-up. - however feminine their gender.
I am prepared to respect the way a person lives their life, I am prepared to fully embrace and accept the way a person genders themselves, but I cannot accept that a past life living otherwise counts for nothing and can be erased by GRC. Whether you gain an OBE or a criminal record, it should remain on your file.
I am a woman
I believe in human beings, democracy, free speech and equal rights.
I am a woman, I am female.
I can never be male.
Though I could live as a man.
(but I wouldn't change my name to Spartacus)

CourageCallsToCourage · 14/06/2018 19:07

Lurker.
Spartacus.
Bloody pissed off, too.

Oh, and I've never had a kid, and I never intend to. Other women talking about their experiences of pregnancy and motherhood is not alienating to me in the slightest. Because I'm still a member of the sex class that grows babies, regardless of whether I personally ever actually do that or not.

Clarabumps · 14/06/2018 19:18

@Amalfimamma thanks! X

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