I am S p a r t a c u s

[PermissionToSpeakSir]

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something a man can never be.

I am a woman.

People refer to me has her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.

I am a woman.

Something a male will never be.

I have a vagina and uterus.

I menstruate and have given birth.

I am a mother.

Something a male will never be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, terrorised, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something a male can never be.

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a male claims to be a woman or anyone says a male can be female.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am Spartacus.

Under your definition it is true. But you would never say that?

Was Spartacus female because he was made to wear a skirt? No, Spartacus was male and wore a skirt, because of oppression and fashion - but he was still male. What I see when I observe a man pretending to be a woman is a man.

Why is biology considered bigotry?

I am Spartacus

A woman is an adult human female.

A man cannot become a woman.

Men cannot be lesbians.

Women don't have dicks.

Lesbians are women exclusively attracted to the same sex.

Woman is not a gender.

I am Spartacus.

Paris Less has XY chromosomes, so is biologically male.

Paris Lees does not have a GRC, so is legally male.

Before MN delete, Im answering a question asked, not being goady.

Paris Less has XY chromosomes, so is biologically male.

Paris Lees does not have a GRC, so is legally male.

Before MN delete, Im answering a question asked, not being goady.

No, I don't think that's an accurate inference. Gender identity is more a sense of one's own identity; in real terms that can be equated to "knowing which set of stereotypes refers to you".

And this is why I hate gender ideology, I am not nor will I ever be a set of stereotypes. Let's stop putting people in boxes if they don't want to be. We have classifications which help, like biological sex, age or race, to support groups which are struggling to reach full potential or need extra safeguards or protection. Gender is nothing and will not help with any of this.

Under your definition it is true. But you would never say that?

And this is why I hate gender ideology, I am not nor will I ever be a set of stereotypes.

Of course you're not, neither am I.

But I know when I wear mascara I'm being gender-conforming not gender-non-conforming.

I know when I get my high-vis on and head out to a building site that that is gender-non-conforming and not gender-conforming.

THAT is what gender identity is; that knowing.

It is not the stereotypes.

A man is a man.

A woman is a woman.

A man cannot become a woman.

A woman cannot become a man.

2 + 2 = 4

I am Spartacus.

Under your definition it is true. But you would never say that?

Shit, meant to answer this. If Paris Lees is an adult legal male I will take your word for it. But I have no business discussing it and without some purpose in mind I would consider myself to be rude in speculating in the same way I would think someone very rude if they were sitting around discussing my vagina unless it was in some way relevant.

I am a woman. I have grown, birthed and fed a child with my female body. I have had pregnancy complications that damaged my physical and mental health. I had to feel the pain and bleeding of losing a wanted pregnancy or risk my health. Woman cannot be identified into. If it was my husband could identify as one, become pregnant instead of me and we could have the other children we want but can’t have.

I was, am now and always will be Spartacus.

Why would you never say that?

Feminists need to say that. The root of discrimination is biological sex. If someone is male or female we need to say that, in order to discuss discrimination.

Would you like to see feminists unable to discuss discrimination?

Gender identity is more a sense of one's own identity; in real terms that can be equated to "knowing which set of stereotypes refers to you

I have no sense of a personal gender identity. I acknowledge there are gender stereotypes but reject them as social constructs. So that's me without a gender identity.

Still female and adult, though, therefore a woman.

RatRoly sorry, can you point out why its relevant to discuss someone vagina when talking about their sex?

That sounds a bit... creepy.

RatRoly sorry, can you point out why its relevant to discuss someone vagina when talking about their sex?

That sounds a bit... creepy.

I am Spartacus.

Biology is truth.

Truth is important.

I am very busy so only just seen this. I am also Spartacus.

Woman is not nail varnish and flippy flappy hands and a breathy voice, and it is fucking insulting to imply it is.

Woman cannot be identified into or out of.

Woman is taken. Get your own fucking noun.

I am more Spartacus every damn day.

First time poster, long time lurker.

I am a woman. I don't "identify" as one or feel like one (glares accusingly at Shania Twain). I can't opted in or out, I can't avoid or sidestep it. I'm stuck with it, and the many biological inconveniences it brings.

I have been abused, assaulted, raped, discriminated against, groped, excluded, talked over, ignored and diminished because of my sex, not because I own a dress.

Women aren't a homogenous group. There are billions of ways of being women, of experiencing the world. The one thing that unites us is our biology. TO deny that is to attempt to erase us.

I support everyone's right to live as they wish as long as that does not infringe the rights of others
I am not transphobic. I use people's preferred nomenclature and pronouns, because that's just being polite.
Until recently I would have said I was an ally of trans people, but the rhetoric demanding we think "transwomen are women" and they should access all-women spaces is dangerous and misogynistic.

I can't believe we have to stand up for this stuff. But because we have to, I've finally posted here to stand shoulder to shoulder with my sisters.

Why would you never say that?

I wouldn't never say it, I would only say it if it were relevant to something. Feminism rarely needs me to make assertions about the biology and anatomy of a single named individual. It the context of this conversation it definitely doesn't. If it is somehow relevant I am quite capable of saying someone is both and adult and male if it is in some way in the best interests of feminism.

RatRoly sorry, can you point out why its relevant to discuss someone vagina when talking about their sex?

Not sure what you're asking, sorry. Vaginas are certainly important when discussing biological sex. I'm not sure that my vagina is particularly important to discuss though.

THAT is what gender identity is; that knowing.

Hang on, I thought gender identity is the innate sense of what our gender is (obviously I don't adhere to this). How is knowing that being female and wearing a dress or being male and liking football a person's gender identity

I'm sat here in boots and trousers, but at the same time have a flowery top on. The former is traditionally male, the latter traditionally female. I know this. How does this mean that I now have a gender identity? Genuinely, I don't understand this thinking

I don't think I was quite clear there. How is me, a female, knowing that there are gender stereotypes and adhering to them (for example, if I was sat here wearing a dress and heels) my gender identity if I don't have an innate sense of gender?

Hang on, I thought gender identity is the innate sense of what our gender is (obviously I don't adhere to this). How is knowing that being female and wearing a dress or being male and liking football a person's gender identity

I must have confused you, sorry. I'll do better this time. Gender identity is an innate sense - I wouldn't say it's a sense of "what one's gender is" because gender=stereotypes. It is a sense that a set of stereotypes apply to you.

If you went out tonight and wore a dress, would you consider yourself to be conforming to or rejecting a gender stereotype? Even if you reject stereotypes wholesale, do you not know which ones society seeks to apply to you?

It isn't nice to force your penis into women's spaces, bodies or definitions. When you insist on doing that, you look very rapey. Women see you and your red flag flying high.

I am writing this in tears... womanly tears.... knowing that everything I hold precious is under threat.... and I am ready to brush away those tears and act with strong resolve....

I am Spartacus and I am ready to die on this hill, alongside all these amazing women I have met on here fighting a battle that just six months ago I didn't even know was happening ... the most important battle of our lives

You would never say that because it's rude?

You think it's 'rude' to use language to describe the source of discrimination?

A poster was just discussing 'impolite women'. How timely.

If you went out tonight and wore a dress, would you consider yourself to be conforming to or rejecting a gender stereotype? Even if you reject stereotypes wholesale, do you not know which ones society seeks to apply to you?

Conforming to, because of course I understand which stereotypes society applies to me.

But it still would not be a gender identity as I understood the term to generally be used, which is the innate sense of what my gender is.

How is biological sex not relevant to feminism, Rat?