Paris Lees was very slippery and manipulative, and I don't think NR pinned PL down very much, though an awful lot better than most. I did gasp when PL said 'people like you have always had the voice' - I mean I know what PL meant of course, but given that NR spent MONTHS of hard labour rehabilitating his voice after surgery for lung cancer gave him a vocal cord palsy, it was a particularly self-centred comment. No doubt PL would say a lot about how much work they had to do on their own voice feminisation, but it's a very different thing, working on a normal voice to use it differently, and working with a disordered voice. Especially when you are trying to present yourself as totally OK on a national broadcasting station at the time as NR has been ever since. The depth of a disability like that is really poorly understood, in fact NR said in his autobiography that his voice damage was the only thing in his cancer experience that made him cry. He still doesn't have a 'normal' voice. He just never, ever chooses to raise it outside very specific settings - no doubt it's partly about toxic masculinity and not showing weakness, but it is also his professional choice and a perfectly legitimate one.
But PL bashing away at 'the law will make no difference' 'it's already the law' (no it isn't, I think PL was deliberately conflating EA protection against discrimination and the GRA) just once 'it's only about paperwork' - and the way they would deflect any specific question to broader 'just want to be understood' 'don't focus on genitals' 'don't treat me as a data point' issues, and narrow any broader question to 'what about violent women' was infuriating. Though PL did make some good points about NR's use of 'some say' questions which are a bit crap really.