Posie

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Where the fuck has the Posie thread gone and why??

So posie has views which have got her no platformed by WPUK.

and now MN will not let us discuss her no platforming???

WTF is happening?? How scary is this shit?

The reason I can see given is that the WPUK decision was not to do with MN.

99% of threads are about people/organsitions/decisions not to do with MN. That explanation makes no sense.

Did Posie ask for it to go?

I thought she was getting mostly support on there.

Also too and besides, RuthZ, who are you and why are you even talking to me?

That Google+ profile photo was definitely uploaded in October 2013, just click the 'i' icon on the photo, it tells you that.

And the YT video also dates from the same time. As it's a Google+ photo, there's really no way to fake that - you can link accounts, but Youtube and Google are the same company, so you would need access to that Google + accounts. In this case however, I think that is the original Google+ account that was used to update this as the dats are the same.

YouTube account names and photos can be changed any time. There is no way posie would have posted that!

HarryLovesDraco, it's not quite as easy as that.

If you look at the Youtube channel page then go view source and look for 'OwnerUrls' and then there's a link to the Google Plus page.

This is explained here at the third answer

stackoverflow.com/questions/35823274/how-to-get-a-users-google-id-from-a-youtube-channel-id

The Youtube and the Google Plus account are linked. In this case it looks like the Google account was created first then used to post on Youtube, rather than this being an existing Youtube account later linked to Google Plus

The profile picture on the Google Plus account was uploaded in November 2013.

This is NOT just a case of a Youtube name & profile picture, it's a Google Account (Google & Youtube are the same company) where the profile picture was - unquestionably - uploaded in November 2013.

So:

2013 video (for sure)
2013 profile picture (for sure)
name - ok this part can be changed fairly easily, however it has been that way since April at the least according to Google cache, and the photo is sufficient evidence.

Well to be honest if the tweets weren't there in black and white, I thin many on here would flat out deny that she would say anything islamophobic either.

People aren't gay because they were dropped on their heads ffs.

Hi there...

My name is Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull

I know my own name. I've just seen the video on twitter, I didn't watch.

Is the photo of you?

Christ, I';ve just found it.... from 2013???? With my picture that I used on google for years, but obviously I can spell my own name!! I didn't know anyone had done this for 5 years and four years ago people had commented so it can't be something done now can it?

Weird to think before the trans nonsense I'd annoyed someone enough to make this account.

PP.... yes it's my picture. I used it on Google for years.

Whoever posted this wherever first must have made it, or how would they know it existed? It's not my name, it's a bad spelling of my name.... who would know to do that?

I have to add, the Rotherham and elsewhere mass abuse scandals happened for three reasons.

1. The attitude of the abusers to girls and women outside their cultural and religious group
2. The attitude of the police to the young girls (they dismissed them as slags). Fear of being accused of racism.
3. The attitude of social services, who saw the young girls as exercising their right to be sexually active, wilfully blind to the grooming and abuse that was in front of them. Also fear of racism.

The attitude of group 3 is still central to choosy choicy liberal feminism, which reframes prostitution as "sex work" and dismisses the plight of girls from repressive cultures as not our business, even if they are living among us. It's dishonest and hypocritical and inconsistent. It might seem to be kinder but it actually causes great harm.

Haha! Really!?!

So you're happy to be known as Posie Parker to everyone, but the thought if you using a variation on your own name is what should make everyone instantly dismiss this, despite as you say no-one having any issue with you nearly 5 years ago when this was posted?

Just in case that selective amnesia sets in again, once upon a time you also used to spell your pseudonym with a 'y' too - www.twitter.com/posyparker

So we've got to believe that someone who knew of you back then set up an account in your name, spelt your name slightly wrong, went to the effort of creating a creepy homophobic video and then did nothing with it? Sure they posted it to YouTube, but they didn't publicise it elsewhere to discredit you as this is the first you've apparently heard of it 4.5 years later?

I'm sure your transparent explanation will be enough for those who were also happy to dismiss your Islamophobia, but I hope there are still some decent people on here who can see the very obvious truth.

Fuck off. Spelling posy like that is nothing like misspelling my own name....

What a stupid thing to say.

Ruth

Did you make it?

Posie, if the youtube account is linked to your google account (as someone has said upthread), how can it be a fake account?

If it is a fake, it will have been created by someone close to you, not a random TRA. I really can't see anyone doing that and waiting 5 years to unveil it I am afraid.

Sorry to say this and have kept quiet till now.

But if Posie really does care about the gender critical movement she needs to recognise she is now toxic to it, apologise and fade into the background.

Anything else is adding fuel to the fire. She is the chink in our armour. She can only do more harm than good now.

I’m not surprised WPUK publicly disavowed her. They had to, to protect their brand.

Please stop now Posie. You have said more than enough.

What google account?

You think I would spell my own name wrongly.

What a fucking ridiculous joke.

I didn't have any broadly known GC views 5 years ago, but people close to me would also spell my name correctly.

Someone happens to know a video in existence that is made using a name that is mine but not spelled correctly and then is able to unearth it to out me as a homophobe???? But it must be me?

This isn't remotely suspicious.... that person who just happened to stumble across something not obvious to look for, well what a massive coincidence. As for it being linked to a google account, what google account?... how can you see that?

Also on the name, do you think a trans person would go to the effort of hacking into Google/YouTube’s database to somehow backdate a profile photo and video to 2013 and then proceed to somehow misspell the name of the very person they are apparently trying to set up!?!

It's not that much effort, and yes

Classic tactics. Accuse the people accusing you? Right out the Donald Trump playbook and just as believable.

Sadly I’ve only recently learnt you existed so haven’t gad the time to build a time machine to go back to 2013 to set you up.

So your only defense is the variation in the spelling of your name. Such a watertight explanation.

I thought a PP said that it was linked to a google account.

To be fair, if I google 'Kellie-Jay Keen' (spelled correctly) it's the third result on google images. I don't think people on here or total strangers will have created it. I assume Keen is your maiden name, so could it be someone from the distant past who has a grievance?

I'm also wondering if Ruth knows more about this

It's pretty obvious why Posie is being targeted. Transactivists have been able to create a narrative that opponents to self ID are ugly frigid old no-fun feminists on the uncool side of history. Posie is articulate and very attractive, and on TV and Radio would be a valuable part of a GC media team appealing to people across the board with a message that being GC isn't weird, or old fashioned, or boring, it's perfectly sensible and normal, and you can still be in the cool gang. This wasn't to be allowed. Posie had to be stopped.

But if Posie really does care about the gender critical movement she needs to recognise she is now toxic to it, apologise and fade into the background.

No, she doesn't. I don't for a second believe posie made that video.

I do believe that TAs would do anything to smear her name.

I don’t mean the video. I mean the sterilisation tweet - the TRAs will never stop bringing it up now.

plus.google.com/112321749500083156779 Gender = male Did the person creating that account get that wrong as well as the name ? No activity showing

Oh ffs, Pratchet. Why on earth would she 'know more' about this? How precisely does one get a time-machine and backdate contents to 2013 (someone upthread has checked this)? I accept that Posie may not have created the channel and that someone who has a grudge against her did it back in 2013. However, it's highly unlikely to be a TRA or a random stranger. It makes no sense.

I found the video very easily by googling her name. Will you accuse me of making it too? I really didn't and had no clue who Kellie-Jay Keen was in 2013.

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