is being attracted to the same sex innate?

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I don't think it is. I think we are all born and have both biological and environmental influences that make us who we are. I do not think that any baby is born gay (prisoners, gay for the stay) I don't think there is anything wrong with being attracted to people with the same sex as you, as long as it is consensual, and of a legal and mental age for capacity of understanding. Be happy. I'm just your average straight woman with children. I wonder how gay/lesbian people disagree with me, but claim that transgenderism is not innate. To clarify, are we born gay/lesbian? if not, why not? and if you believe that nonsense, why do you disbelieve transgenderism? (I'm very gender critical, non religious, and in full support of 'gay/lesbian' rights' I'm interested to know peoples thoughts

I recently came to the (probably unpopular) opinion that like gender, who we are attracted to is influenced by society and culture rather than something innate. I think if society encouraged it we'd all mostly be bisexual.

i think its the way we are born, but its difficult to tell because you don’t start feeling attraction towards people until you approach/reach puberty.

of course it has to be innate to some degree because we wouldn’t know to reproduce
otherwise. id say bisexuality is more socially influenced than homosexuality or heterosexuality.

I have no idea why I am a lesbian, whether it’s a genetic predisposition or environmental/experience. Quite frankly, I don’t care. The reason makes absolutely no difference to me whatsoever, and it makes absolutely no difference to my rights as a human being. I’m pretty much sure that it could be proved one way or the other that I am attracted to people of the same sex because it is a fact. Feeling like a woman is not a fact. I don’t think there is actually a definition of feeling like a woman in the same way that there is a definition of homosexuality, so the two things aren’t really comparable in my opinion.

I think that it's such a complex mixture that we'll never know. There are identical twins who are gay and straight - explain that.

There's substantial evidence that sexual orientation is in some large measure determined in utero:

Prenatal endocrine influences on sexual orientation and on sexually differentiated childhood behavior

I think it must be innate as homosexuality has been observed in other species ranging from penguins to fruit flies. It could be a way that is used as a form of population control

I don't know whether being gay, straight or bisexual is innate but I don't think it matters much. "Born this way" seems to me to be a way to explain to conservatives why they should accept gay people. I don't want to argue against it if it helps gay people in conservative environments but I don't endorse it because I'm not sure it's true. Being gay doesn't need justification so it doesn't much matter to me.

I think the the consensus is that sexual orientation is innate. It is accepting yourself as you are despite social conditioning to be the heterosexual "norm".
Transgenderism on the other hand is rejecting and denying that you are who you are.

Sexual orientation and gender identity have nothing in common and gender ideology appears to be homophobic.

if same sex attraction is innate, why do both female and male prisoners ,turn (innately?) whilst in prison, then go back to being hetero?

trans people also claim evidence, doesn't make it real

it isnt preference for gay people, its preference for any individual to be attracted to whichever sex they feel attracted to. you cant really compare attraction to liking carrots, thats ridiculous.

sexuality and transgenderism are very different.

I'm not comparing sexuality to carrots I was trying to make a point about what is innate, and what isn't. be honest, there are zero scientific studies that show gay/lesbian as innate, as there are for pink and blue brain. I'm not doubting anybody's preferences, there is just no evidence that cannot be critically fucked over?

there are studies which show gay/lesbian parents don’t raise children who are also gay/lesbian.

heterosexuality and homosexuality have been linked to specific genes.

really? which genes are those? and what is the percentage of people with those genes turning out to be gay? I'm interested. my cousin was raised by lesbian parents, who I adore. she is straight. what does that have to do with being genetically gay? its bollocks

Why does it matter? People feel attracted to whoever they're attracted to.

“why do both female and male prisoners ,turn (innately?) whilst in prison,”

Do they? Do they actually become attracted to their own sex, or are they just engaging in the only sexual relationships open to them?

“I wasn't born with a preference for carrots, life shaped me to dislike them. if I was born in Africa, I would worship, the availability of carrots”

Really? Because I hate grapefruit, I have no life experience with grapefruit other than tasting them and going, WTF is that? Why are you all eating that like it doesn’t taste poisonous?...

If I was living somewhere with scarce resources of course I could eat them, but I never would again if circumstances changed.

'what does it matter?' ill tell you why it matters. gay and lesbian people cant enforce the 'biology' rule when there is no actual evidence of being same sex attracted from birth, then declare trans is ridiculous. From my standing, one is a choice, the other is delusion. I'm not saying either is wrong

fuck sake its not about fruit and veg, all I'm trying to say is when it comes to critically analysing gay and trans, neither is distinctively innate, its all perception, depending on who has been funded to do the research. I'm not saying either is wrong, just that both are not biological, and both are socially constructed. I like people who are themselves.

“fuck sake its not about fruit and veg”

No, it wasn’t... I extended your metaphor, I thought it was pretty obvious tbh.

if same sex attraction is innate, why do both female and male prisoners ,turn (innately?) whilst in prison, then go back to being hetero?

They don't.
Neither homosexual males nor females turn heterosexual while in prison.
You are not making sense.
Nor are you critically analyzing anything. You are ranting.
Is this the midnight misogynist back to get his narcissistic feed once again?

We are all, in almost every facet, a mixture of nature and nurture.

There are genes and then there is how they are expressed. It is much, much more complicated than 'gay genes'.

I find it really hard to believe there is a high heels and make up gene any more than there is a foot-binding or neck-stretching gene. Gender is clearly utter made up tosh. Sexual attraction is not. Without it we would die out. It may be strongly or weakly heritable as many really interesting things are (job satisfaction, for example). Almost nothing is 100% heritable.

gay and lesbian people cant enforce the 'biology' rule when there is no actual evidence of being same sex attracted from birth, then declare trans is ridiculous.

No-one can change sex, no matter how much they want to. There is no such thing as a female penis, or a male uterus.

I'll repeat this so it penetrates: People feel attracted to whoever they're attracted to.