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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

@mumsnetT account set up to target MN

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catgirl1976 · 02/05/2018 20:40

Anyone seen this? Bravely scouring MN to find instances of transphobia and shine a light on them.

They've managed to find 3 posts which they think are transphobic (one was IMO, the other 2 were not) and all 3 were already removed by MN before this site retweeted them. Then we've got the issue of TRAs coming on and posting transphobic stuff to make MN look bad.

I feel very sorry for MN walking this tightrope. Why are the TRAs not targetting PistonHeads or Reddit? I think we know the answer.

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ErrolTheDragon · 02/05/2018 20:43

There are some threads already discussing this, including one on site stuff about 'brigading'. The activists seem to be trying to make MNHQs job a nightmare.SadAngry

catgirl1976 · 02/05/2018 20:43

Ah sorry - I hadn't seen the other threads. Justine must need something stronger than gin these days. :(

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TerfAndSerf · 02/05/2018 20:49

The activists seem to be trying to make MNHQs job a nightmare.

Isn't that how they operate?

Harass the site until they give in?

They're targeting advertisers (see Shon Faye thread) and MNHQ directly.

MrGHardy · 02/05/2018 20:50

100% they make fake accounts posting vile stuff to make MN look bad. Board needs a post counter and join date.

busyboysmum · 02/05/2018 21:30

I'm sure we can ride this out until they get bored TBH

rememberthetime · 02/05/2018 21:53

Could we post links to actual transphobic comments made on other sites? Just to point out the differences in the types of comments made.

AncientLights · 02/05/2018 21:59

I saw 'brigading' on another site too: what is it? Being on here is like learning a new language.

UpstartCrow · 02/05/2018 22:02

@AncientLights
Brigading is 'A concentrated effort by one online group to manipulate another e.g. by mass commenting. ''

MsMcWoodle · 02/05/2018 22:02

*rememberthetime" I don't think that would help us.
It might be fun to inundate them with misogynistic tweets though.

MsMcWoodle · 02/05/2018 22:03

Ha! Yes - do our own brigading.

OvaHere · 02/05/2018 22:07

Could we post links to actual transphobic comments made on other sites? Just to point out the differences in the types of comments made.

TRAs know perfectly well what men say on social media and male dominated forums like reddit, pistonheads and kiwi farms.

They don't care because this isn't about transphobia it's about coercive control and subjugation of women.

They need women to collude with the 'you can change your sex' narrative otherwise the whole ideology falls apart at the seams. Those who admit to being driven by AGP (formerly known as transvestites) cannot successfully act out the fantasy without collusion from women.

MsMcWoodle · 02/05/2018 22:16

Ovahere I agree - additionally, I don't think that they can really hope we will change our minds. As I've said on here before, I think the whole point is to make us change our behaviour and speech and enjoy the fact that they are forcing us to do it.

AncientLights · 02/05/2018 22:17

Upstart Crow - thanks. Is brigading a bad thing then? Probably when we do it but not when they do it I suspect.

R0wantrees · 02/05/2018 22:18

extract:
"Of particular current concern is Mumsnet. Originally set up to be a support group for mothers, the website has expanded to have a variety of “boards”
. The feminist activism board seems to have become an area for those opposed to trans rights to organise"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3238618-Trans-Media-Watch-has-written-to-parliament-saying-trans-identified-male-can-be-considered-as-hate-speech-and-that-Mumsnet-users-referring-to-penises-are-being-transphobic

RealityHasALiberalBias · 02/05/2018 22:20

What happened to the idea of a 30 day posting probation?

OvaHere · 02/05/2018 22:25

Also women, specifically mothers, will be seen as gatekeepers to the transing of young children.

As one of the earliest TRAs (I forget who- Canadian, ex armed forces) said several years ago (paraphrasing here) ' we need the children to take the sex out of the ideology.'

Meaning I presume that the innocence of children will win people over to the idea of a trans umbrella and gloss over that for some individuals there is a fetish element at play.

TrippingTheVelvet · 02/05/2018 22:29

I wouldn't worry too much. I noseyed earlier and they had 30 followers and managed to lock themselves out of their account so made another

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2018 22:31

Mn made the mistake of admitting they were struggling. Was always going to downhill from there.

UpstartCrow · 02/05/2018 22:33

@AncientLights When women do it, its brigading and bad.
When other groups do it its activism and brave and such. I would assume that all the GF's, sea lions and seagulls on this very board believe they are doing activism, not just trolling and shutting down an oppressed group.

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2018 23:00

I think MN will cave within a fortnight.

It will not be pretty.

Pratchet · 02/05/2018 23:34

As one of the earliest TRAs (I forget who- Canadian, ex armed forces) said several years ago (paraphrasing here) ' we need the children to take the sex out of the ideology.'

Ever wondered why 'transgender' replaced 'transexual'? It was not an accident.

Pratchet · 02/05/2018 23:35

I don't think they'll cave, unless they feel their kids or their staff are at physical risk.

Pratchet · 02/05/2018 23:37

We are so nearly there. This is lashing out because people are waking up. It's all hands to the TRA pumps. If we can survive a little mad mad moment, we will be fine.

FermatsTheorem · 02/05/2018 23:40

I don't think they will cave, Red. Have a look at the "Thanks to the amazing women of FWR" thread - it will cheer you up.

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