'Sex Redistribution' to help over come inequality. WTAF

[Wanderabout]

?!?!?!?

www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/two-types-of-envy.html

Quote from article:

"One might plausibly argue that those with much less access to sex suffer to a similar degree as those with low income, and might similarly hope to gain from organizing around this identity, to lobby for redistribution along this axis and to at least implicitly threaten violence if their demands are not met. As with income inequality, most folks concerned about sex inequality might explicitly reject violence as a method, at least for now, and yet still be encouraged privately when the possibility of violence helps move others to support their policies. (Sex could be directly redistributed, or cash might be redistributed in compensation.)"

What the absolute FUCK is this?

Also is it true that Amnesty argues that people have a 'right' to sex?

Because if so, surely the above argument is basically the logical conclusion?

And in which case I am cancelling my long held monthly donation.

The use of the word 'folks', so beloved of trans people. Sounds so very cosy, all dancing-round-the-maypole to folk music. Lovely. If only they were. It's clearly a piece of insanity to any rational person, but who knows in this age of madness? I'll be poking around on t'internet tonight trying to find out if AI are involved: they do seem to have been broadening their remit in recent years.

Where's that gin?

No Amnesty don't say that people have a right to sex.
Amnesty now argue that prostitution is a matter of free choice (and therefore a right.)
www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/jul/28/amnesty-international-prostitution-sex-work-human-trafficking

yeah I googled Robin Hanson. Turns out he's a loon, although an unaccountably influential one.

wheres that

Sex could be directly redistributed

WTF might that actually mean, other than 'access to women's bodies'? women are not a tradable commodity.

No Amnesty don't say that people have a right to sex.

That at least is a relief.

They do seem to have been influenced by pimps. I'm sorry, ''the sex trade''.

The Guardian link is to an article dated 2015 and talks of a meeting to take place shortly thereafter: do we know how the vote went? I'll add that to my digging for this evening's entertainment (ha!). Thanks for the gin, Wanderabout. Gonna need it.

Sex could be directly redistributed

So I get to shag Micheal Fassbender? No, it's not ever women getting extra attractive men is it? It's always men getting access to unwilling women.

He does claim this would also apply to women Terry so you could be in luck.

In theory.

Oh wow! Thousands of single women / single mothers are just told to ''join a club'' or to ''volunteer'' or ''focus on your children'' or ''be less fussy''.

Amazing isn't it? Women just get on with their disappointment. Men want to have a woman assigned to them

Can I use the biscuit symbol for the article or is only for posts here, because that article

WTAF was that? And then I like how the author has come back to edit it and says 'Oh no I didn't mean rape and enslavement, I meant let's have lots more prostitution' like nobody could find that offensive!

Basically he seems to be advocating prostitution with state-funded vouchers for the kind of man who women flee from. Urgh.

I stumbled on this thread on twitter today. I think it fits well.

Santana? Like carlos santana? @ saladgrl
We can talk about the misogyny of "incels" all day but you know what I haven't seen much on? Their authoritarianism. Many talk about the need for some kind of sexual regulation, where the government has control of who can sleep w who and assigns women to incels.

That kind of massive gov't intervention into people's person lives is insane. It's fucking unhinged. The amount of power they are willing to give the government in order to fix the "problem" of "hypergamy" would end freedom as we know it.

They express disgust at wht they see as "sexual market value", where average women sleep w/ chads. They then propose to regulate that with gov't licensed attractiveness identifiers. It's straight up dystopian horror

By expanding the definition of "needs" to include sex, and relying on the welfare state, they propose massively expanding gov't to provide for that need at the expense of everyone's freedom. They want the gov't to do everything for them.

Different groups do this for different reasons. But it's really wild to me how these incels (who would probably otherwise be small gov't conservatives) absolutely bow down to the nanny state to fix their problems. And they don't care about the potential consequences.

They essentially seek gov't "intervention" in the "sexual market" to enact redistribution. U see this everywhere in politics. It's particularly disgusting here b/c they want to redistribute ppls' bodies, but the point still stands. It's a prime example of illiberalism.

Anyway. (Excluding the discussion of their misogyny.) The government is not the solution to your problems. Incels are a perfect example of authoritarian paternalism, and we should understand their ideology as an example of such

"One might plausibly argue that those with much less access to sex suffer to a similar degree as those with low income,...

No, you could not "plausibly argue" that unless you use the Humpty Dumpty language rules for the word plausibly to mean something other than reasonable or probable.

Jesus Christ

If we said, women should have sex so that men don't get upset potentially to the point of murdering people would we say it was a plausible argument?

Cos that would be rather rapey.

Has this jackass never read A Handmaid's Tale?

I don't think incels see women as human so would take A Handmaids Tale as an instruction manual.

www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/04/28/prevent-future-incel-terrorism-by-banning-makeup-forcing-women-to-have-sex-with-creepy-weirdos-creepy-weirdo-suggests/

It sound like its not the only article of this nature that has circulated this week. Here's wehuntrdthemammoth talking about another one. Again with this idea of women having a 'market value'.

Sounds like then Toronto attacker has embolden a few sympathisers.

New to the whole "incel" thing. Is there a reason why they don't just use prostitutes?

Christ on a bike, just googled Hanson and it looks like he's not some fringe nutcase, he's actually taken seriously in some circles as an academic!

rocketpocket Brace yourself;

www.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings/comments/6ny04z/why_dont_incels_just_pay_a_prostitute_to_have_sex/

Quote from the article: "One might plausibly argue that those with much less access to sex suffer to a similar degree as those with low income,"

WTAF? Low income = possibly not enough money to feed yourself and your family, fuel poverty, unsafe and unhealthy housing, worse health outcomes.

Not as much sex as you'd like... consequences = feeling a bit crotchety. That's it. Contrary to popular belief, your balls do not turn blue, your dick does not fall off. You may feel a bit pissed off at your lot in life, but hell, a lot of things can do that to you.

Seriously, how could someone who is, presumably, extremely bright (given his academic pedigree) write such utter shite with a straight face? Or is it that it's an elaborate ploy to make income inequality seem less bad than it actually is? "Hey, guys, capitalism isn't so bad. We're not really grinding the poor down. Income inequality is no worse than sexual inequality, and who seriously thinks anyone should be griping about that?"

Anyway, it never ceases to amaze me (having spent over 30 years in various academic/research settings surrounded by extremely clever people) just how completely stupid about many everyday scenarios some extremely clever people can be.