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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Sex Redistribution' to help over come inequality. WTAF

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Wanderabout · 28/04/2018 17:55

?!?!?!?

www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/two-types-of-envy.html

Quote from article:

"One might plausibly argue that those with much less access to sex suffer to a similar degree as those with low income, and might similarly hope to gain from organizing around this identity, to lobby for redistribution along this axis and to at least implicitly threaten violence if their demands are not met. As with income inequality, most folks concerned about sex inequality might explicitly reject violence as a method, at least for now, and yet still be encouraged privately when the possibility of violence helps move others to support their policies. (Sex could be directly redistributed, or cash might be redistributed in compensation.)"

What the absolute FUCK is this?

Also is it true that Amnesty argues that people have a 'right' to sex?

Because if so, surely the above argument is basically the logical conclusion?

And in which case I am cancelling my long held monthly donation.

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 29/04/2018 15:18

Amnesty went to the porn trade a while ago and lost all credibility. Protecting traffickers at the expense of the women and girls who are trafficked is unbelievable.

I sometimes think I'm in this fucked up Matrix where everywhere and everybody who I thought stood for some moral principle turns out to be tainted by evil. Talk about undermining …it's like the evil empire has planted agents in all the institutions that profess to be there for "good". These agents then work from within to corrupt the very foundations plus use those institutions for their own selfish ends - involving getting status and power whilst fucking over women and children in the back room. Turns out it's been happening forever and those agents are the offenders using the "good" label as cover for their abuse….enabled by all the other "good" men

CritEqual · 29/04/2018 15:21

I'm not a natural feminist (at least not in modern terms I think!), but I would fight this batshit argument right up until the last breath left my body. The thing is it's an extension of this crazy postmodern subjectivist world we are all heir to.

I've seen pedophiles make similar arguments which make me quite frankly sick to my stomach, and the thing is in a secular world where there is no common standard for morality/ethics these ARE arguments that are plausible to make, the only bulwark against them are our own inherant subjective aesthetic preferences. The danger is if those things shift (which I believe they are, take just a casual glance at the trans situation currently raging) things are going to go sidewise and fucking quickly.

The best argument I can currently muster against this without having a whole lot of time to reflect is how vital to a nations stability two lynchpins to a prosperous and free society are. Those are namely equal access to education and women having reproductive rights. These two really are utterly non-negotiable when it comes to having a decent modern society, and I don't mean that in a wishy washy way, every country that does not and is not making progression towards those principles is more likely to suffer from starvation, extremism and a whole host of other significant problems. It's a ultilitarian argument which I usually don't like but it is true.

I'm normally a natural enemy of socialism, and I could hark on about how I think wealth re-distribution is a crime however those notions are not going to play with the left at all so something else needs to be applied here. We absolutely cannot allow ideas like this to flourish without opposition from everyone.

Wanderabout · 29/04/2018 15:42

Sex is being redistributed - no, what you mean is you’re given a woman to rape.

Yes, what he's actually saying is women should be forced, by violence if necessary, to have sex with people who fancy it.

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BreconBeBuggered · 29/04/2018 16:01

Can they not just pal up and fuck one another? It's clearly not a relationship with a woman they're after, just a warm body with an accessible orifice.

ReluctantCamper · 29/04/2018 16:05

Yes, the worrying thing here is not one mention of love...

ReluctantCamper · 29/04/2018 16:10

and also no mention of procreation. in this world of redistributed sex, where does pregnancy fit in?

JaneR0chester · 29/04/2018 16:20

@Bowlofbabelfish have you read "The Power"? I was quite conflicted reading that, instinctively I couldn't agreed with the oppression happening to men, but then I just thought hang on, that oppression is happening already, daily, to women in reality... my sympathy for the oppressed men in the story withered away.

The lack of logic and personal responsibility, and the sense of entitlement these "incels" feel is horrifying.

BreconBeBuggered · 29/04/2018 16:36

Quite the brave new world

Bowlofbabelfish · 29/04/2018 18:23

quentin, jane I haven’t but I will. Assume both are depressing as hell?

QuentinSummers · 29/04/2018 19:51

No! " Not an easy man" is very funny. Film version of man who has it all I guess. Thought provoking.

QuentinSummers · 29/04/2018 19:51

The Power is a brilliant book too. Also not depressing but thought provoking

QuentinSummers · 29/04/2018 19:52

The film is on Netflix

bd67th · 29/04/2018 21:55

The same bellend wrote several essays comparing fruitful infidelity with rape: www.overcomingbias.com/2010/11/gentlesilentrape.html

He's married. I'm forced to wonder why his wife hasn't upped and left.

NeedAGoodBook · 29/04/2018 22:07

I read the power. I kind of liked it. Not sure. It's something I've always thought about. If the balance was tipped (just slightly) in OUR favour.
I've always thought vaginas should have teeth. But I loved the electric eel comparison.

AllyMcBeagle · 29/04/2018 22:22

I've always thought vaginas should have teeth.

Have you seen Teeth? I enjoyed it.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teeth_(film)

Pratchet · 29/04/2018 22:25

The Power made me think that all women should legally be allowed to carry tasters.

Pratchet · 29/04/2018 22:26

TASERS

AngryAttackKittens · 29/04/2018 22:26

Well, that's a nice, indirect way to say "government sponsored and organized rape", isn't it?

The eternal misogynist struggle with the reality of women being people with our own thoughts, preferences, etc manifests in new forms all the time.

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2018 09:29

Awaits the first political party to have 'nationalise poor women' as a policy on their manifesto.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 09:33

There was an MRA, can't remember which one, who argued that if men were required to register for selective service (US) then women should be required to make ourselves available for sexual service. When your proposed policy reads like a dystopian novel then maybe it's time to ask yourself the "are we the baddies?" question.

Wanderabout · 30/04/2018 09:34

Lib Dems 2/1
Labour 3/2

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