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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Miranda Yardley is meeting Jeremy Corbin tomorrow!

53 replies

terfing · 19/04/2018 22:19

If I just heard correctly, MY said that she's meeting JC tomorrow? Friday April 20th? Can anyone who was at the Bristol meeting confirm?

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HopScotchy · 20/04/2018 00:21

Yes. The problem is that Labour are still insisting this is only about trans views and nothing to do with women. And this despite the fact the issue is about how the law defines sex not gender.

DJLippy · 20/04/2018 00:27

Is this what consulting with women looks like Mr Corbyn? Check your implicit bias mate your misogyny is showing.

hipsterfun · 20/04/2018 01:21

Is this meeting specifically about Miranda’s recent problems with Labour?

Anyway, Miranda seems a good, safe pair of hands so I look forward to hearing more.

miri1985 · 20/04/2018 03:01

Does anyone else think this timing is ridiculous?

They sent out the AWS letter this week without talking to anyone on the GC side that we know of and now that they've done that they're taking meeting a MY.

Regardless, best of luck Miranda

MargeH · 20/04/2018 06:55

JC will listen... and ignore as always.

He know what's best for us. rolls eyes.

MargeH · 20/04/2018 06:57

Arghhhh

Forgot asterisks mean bold on here

AskBasil · 20/04/2018 07:29

Hop is so right.

Miranda can be trusted to point out to JC that he's only meeting with a transwoman, because transwomen are male and he's not prepared to listen to women on this.

However, if there were no Miranda's, JC would never hear the gender crit view. Because he doesn't listen to women.

Writersblock2 · 20/04/2018 07:31

Miranda is amazing. Good luck!

Trumpdump · 20/04/2018 10:13

Anyone remember JC's woeful MN webchat? He turned up late, let early, answered a few questions on biscuits/ jam, and just came across as very distant... honestly, I think THeeresa May would have done better!

Threewheeler1 · 20/04/2018 10:29

Good luck Miranda - I've got an awful lot of time for you Star

Don't hope out much hope though, despite the fact Miranda is superb.

Corbyn is completely ineffective & tone deaf to women. His position is propped up by a bunch of brocialists who are happy to call women 'cu**s' when they point out that women are the experts at being women.

Think Labour are beyond reasoning with about this issue now & any notion of women being listened to will be tokenistic (much like the 'consultation'...)

TerfsUp · 20/04/2018 10:32

Hooray for Miranda!

TopBitchoftheWitches · 20/04/2018 10:32

Miranda is lovely, good luck Smile

MsMcWoodle · 20/04/2018 12:10

At least Miranda can be trusted to take our part. Won't make any difference to JC though. Nasty little shit really hates women.

whoputthecatout · 20/04/2018 12:18

Good luck Miranda. Corbyn does seem to be hard of thinking.

terfing · 20/04/2018 16:36

Does anyone have any further updates on this? Smile

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SmurfOrTerff · 20/04/2018 17:37

So he has finally decided to meet a woman . . . .

SeaWitchly · 20/04/2018 18:41

I think we need to give Corbyn a chance here... I imagine he is trying to tread a very fine line between the ‘progressive’brosocialists /trans handmaidens in the party and the more outspoken (fierce and brave!) gender critical feminists. I truly hope that Corbyn will listen to MY with an open mind and try to understand the concerns regarding self ID that she will no doubt raise. I know it is not ideal in the sense that yet again it is not a biological/natal woman who gets a place at the debating table... but I will reserve any greater judgement until I hear the particulars and outcome of this discussion.

Kneedeepinunicorns · 20/04/2018 18:50

In a convo between JC and Miranda, my money is on Miranda.

Who rocks. Flowers

But yes, rather pointed that JC is continuing to be severely gynephobic on this matter.

terfing · 20/04/2018 22:51

Does anyone know how it went? I can't see anything on Twitter.

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hipsterfun · 22/04/2018 12:51

Any news?

Perhaps JC had pressing allotment business and put in a no-show...

terfing · 22/04/2018 14:16

I've heard nothing Sad

Miranda has been posting, but not about this. I wonder if she mis-spoke and meant 'week' instead of 'Day' or something? Confused

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MushroomGravy · 22/04/2018 14:36

But why not a woman?

I am guessing that in the labour more socialist than thou mind of Jeremy Corbyn he isn't meeting with a female representative but a member of the side being oppressed by women.

So instead of mixing with UKIP to discuss immigration, he's meeting with an immigrant.

Radfems being UKIP in this scenario obviously. [sigh]

Still, Miranda is good people, and in fairness, I can't actually think of anyone who would be a better representative for us in this situation.

Remeber, at this point, it's not just about feminism but about anyone who is gender critical and teenagers of both sexes being pushed in to harmful stereotypes. As a TW herself she's not going to be seen as a hideous bigot like the rest of us. As a long-term transexual she's got a lot more knowledge than any of the young trans teens who think wearing lipstick to match your beard makes them a woman. And I'd say probably as knowledgeable of the gender critical arguments as any of the feminists involved without any of the baggage that comes from being an Angry Woman®. I'd love to send a raging middle aged radical feminist in there to deal with Corbyn but it probably wouldn't make him listen.

hipsterfun · 22/04/2018 14:47

Strategically, Miranda is a two (or more) stones with one bird proposition Grin

Corbyn needs to put his big boy briefs on and take Linda’s call at some point. I can’t believe Jeremy Corbyn is blanking Linda Bellos. Linda Bellos!!!* It’s like the progressive bit of the 80s never happened. We need to get the band back together, man.

*I almost never use multiple exclamation marks.

auntycartmanslargertesticle · 22/04/2018 15:29

hipsterfun
Linda Bellos!!!!!!!
I dig ya man.

hipsterumlaut · 23/04/2018 16:19

Still no news on this?

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