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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Article: The Humpty Dumpty Wonderland of Transgender Language.

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JustAnotherSpartacus · 19/04/2018 18:00

This is a new article by Skeptic Andy Lewis

The Humpty Dumpty Wonderland of Transgender Language.

"As you may have noticed and if you are still following me, I have been struggling to understand the role of scepticism within transgender issues. My first concerns about how a transgender charity were promoting poor science with direct effects on children were met with cries of ‘don’t be a jerk, Andy’, unfriendings and so on. A questionable children’s charity with dodgy science ought to be bread and butter for sceptics. It has not got much better. Maybe I am being a jerk, but I do need to resolve how sceptical scrutiny can be applied to the various claims being lofted around without it becoming a firestorm. I know of no other issue where scepticism appears not to be allowed..."

For the rest:

medium.com/@lecanardnoir/the-humpty-dumpty-wonderland-of-transgender-language-e0cbbecedcbc

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ErrolTheDragon · 19/04/2018 18:11

Thank goodness there are still some people who engage in critical thinking!

AncientLights · 19/04/2018 18:20

I wonder why two men choose to discuss the meaning of 'Woman'?

ApplesinmyPocket · 19/04/2018 18:24

Excellent article.

"The word ‘woman’ has had clear and unambiguous meaning. We mean by it an ‘adult human female’ where a female is that class of people whose biological organisational structure and development is directed towards the production of immobile ova etc. (This definition is not threatened by rare intersex conditions, infertility etc as some try to argue, bizarrely.)"

...to which his respondent calmly replies "I reject your definition of the word 'woman'" - but, as usual, makes no attempt to define it himself.

TerfinUSA · 19/04/2018 18:44

I wonder why two men choose to discuss the meaning of 'Woman'?

That depends if you think 'woman' is an arbitrary relativist term or a uncomplicated noun like 'cat' or 'pencil'. It's not really the same as asking two men to define 'feminism', is it, clearly if 'woman' has any meaning at all, then the definition is one that can be given by anyone.

NotTerfNorCis · 19/04/2018 18:52

Saw an argument today that since someone can be intersex, man and woman had no objective meaning.

Scientists have successfully crossed a goat with a sheep to make a hybrid. Does that mean the definitions of goat and sheep are now meaningless?

flowersonthepiano · 19/04/2018 19:31

This is very good. He clearly states the problem. There needs to be much more of this.

RealityHasALiberalBias · 19/04/2018 19:36

Great to see some of the sceptic community getting in on this debate. Andy Lewis is a legend.

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