The MNHQ Moderation Team: Thread 2

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Follow on thread regarding the data breach situation:
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Dear MNHQ

I'm very grateful for the commitment to free speech you've publicly taken, and for Justine's courage this week.

A former disgruntled employee of MN is writing on Twitter about the 'transphobia' of MN staff, and calling you TERFs. She is showing a great deal of bias and intolerance towards women with feminist views, this may well be her honest opinion, which is no big deal I suppose, since she is no longer an employee.

At least, it isn't an issue until she calls a shout out to her
'friends who still work at MN' to report and take down posts by 'transphobic scum', by which she appears to be referring to any poster objecting to being called TERF by her friend.

Regardless of the personal views of the MNHQ staff, who should be as free to hold their own views as I am mine, I am disturbed that there may be a small contingent of employees who are invested in unfair moderation and will not be applying fair-handed principles, at least if the claims of this ex-employee are credible.

Can you please give posters some reassurance that the difficult job of fair-handed moderation isn't being abused by the 'friends' of ex-employees who are 'reporting it all' and taking down posts because any gender criticism means the poster is 'transphobic scum'?

Thank you.

It's still very worrying to think what other data she may hold on users and where/how that data is being stored and the possible uses of it in the future.

Don't tell me you're sorry cause you're not/

...when I know you're only sorry you got caught

(Rhianna)

Exactly Obi. This is about data breach and her apology is worthless.

That apology is crap!

You have not apologised for the intent. Blaming it on posting in anger when you clearly took and kept screenshots for a reason - and the only reason I can see is a scheme such as this. You haven’t show any contrition for your premeditated actions.

SwearyGodPervert you make a very good point, reminding us that this wasn't some thoughtless hotheaded act done out of misguided political passion and love for the cause - it was planned and premeditated.

A day late and a dollar short, as Americans say...

Again, what about the friends on the inside she claimed to have? There have been some very odd decisions made about deletions lately.

it was planned and premeditated.

...and I bet there was lots of high-fiving and chortling when she posted the screenshots, and enjoyment of the worry caused to posters.

Hmmm. I don't think an apology like this would wash if charged with a criminal offence 'with intent'.
God loves a trier.

It's the sheer arrogance of youth. She didn't stop to think about implications. And despite the months she spent working at MNHQ, she somehow thinks she is the only person who has strong feelings about LGBTQ+ rights. There are posters here who have campaigned around those issues for years, who have helped to create substantial, positive change. And they didn't put women at risk to do so.
I hope Emma has a RL support network that isn't limited to people using her for the data she can access. This will be a difficult time for her and even though it's entirely of her own making, her 'apology' shows how immature she actually is.

Thank you for the updates, Justine. And thank you for providing space for women to talk reasonably freely. I am grateful.

Please pass on to Emma that I do not accept her apology. Her actions were clearly premeditated and have not only caused hurt and upset but may also have put women at risk from an activist movement she knows perfectly well uses real life and sometimes violent tactics. Please tell Emma that she has committed a crime and middle class university alumni don't get to escape the justice system any more than other people do. Emma's behaviour was not only pre-meditated, it was reckless with the real world safety of women. How she could ever think of this as feminism - let alone legally acceptable - is completely beyond me. Emma's accountability must go further than a woe-is-me email.

Yy sharing confidential info as a current employee could be "in anger"

If you've been consistently angry for ooo six months, to the extent that it has affected your decision making over that entire time - as you seem to claim from your apology - then you should probably make an appt with the GP, hun

At her age (I won't post it now as direct references are being deleted) many mners had kids and jobs with a great deal of responsibility. She isn't a bloody child.

What's the location element? I missed that.

Good ol' HQ covering stuff up

And she was proud of what she did, publishing under her own name and with links to her current employer.

Please pass on to Emma that I do not accept her apology. Her actions were clearly premeditated and have not only caused hurt and upset but may also have put women at risk from an activist movement she knows perfectly well uses real life and sometimes violent tactics. Please tell Emma that she has committed a crime and middle class university alumni don't get to escape the justice system any more than other people do. Emma's behaviour was not only pre-meditated, it was reckless with the real world safety of women. How she could ever think of this as feminism - let alone legally acceptable - is completely beyond me. Emma's accountability must go further than a woe-is-me email.

This ^^

I hope that MNHQ have reported this to the police - as previous posters have said, this was not the angry act of a moment, regretted afterwards - the screenshotting of the posts indicates a level of premeditation.

I also agree that Emma's apology is a perfect example of a Sorry (Not Sorry) apology - it looks like she's doing the minimum, to try to make the problem go away - and I don't think it should go away.

I was just mistakenly trying to do what I thought was the right thing as someone with very strong feelings on LGBTQ+ rights - and in doing so, I did something very misguided and frankly awful

She still thinks that 'doing the right thing' in her own eyes is an excuse.

She has not realised that her own personal feelings are not an excuse for harming others. That in this sort of job, you are not going to agree with 100% of posters (and on a site this big, who would?) but that they also have a right to hold their own views and it is your professional job to stand back and take your own personal politics out of it.

In any job that is of any worth, you are going to have responsibilities and professionalism is part of that responsibility.

In my volunteering, I am surprised how many people put in a position of responsibility over money run off with the proceeds. It is not even huge amounts usually, but they thought their uses for the money was more worthwhile than the organisation they were supposedly helping. This is pretty similar. She thought her politics were more worthy of the information.

(Sorry, that isn't as well written as I thought)

Her apology is definitely a bit see through.

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