Spartacus believes in biology.

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Transwomen are biologically male. They are born biologically male and they remain biologically male.

I accept that it must be very hard to suffer from gender dysphoria. I wish transwomen well. I support their right not to be discriminated against in housing, employment and in life in general.

But biology matters. It is biology which means that women in Ireland and across South America and in many other parts of the world are the ones who get pregnant and are then forced to give birth against their will by political systems that deny them the right to abortion. It is biology which enables people in cultures which practice FGM to recognise which babies are female and thus decide which ones' genitals need slicing off with rusty razor blades. It is biology which dictates which foetuses are aborted simply for being female, which infants are allowed to die simply for being female. It is biology which means we are, on average, smaller and less physically strong than men and thus at higher risk of domestic violence up to and including murder (2 a week in this country, into the hundreds in Russia which has recently legalised domestic violence).

I am not prepared to lie about biology. Facts matter. The intersection of facts and political beliefs matters.

This is a hill on which I'm prepared to be banned from Mumsnet.

I am Spartacus.

Biology is real.

I will die on this hill.

I am Spartacus.

I also have my music with me if we're expecting to do a bit of exercise.

Agree AngryAttackKittens - this is not having a go at mumsnet. This is a plea to not make us be entrenched in Orwellian language that the TAs want - the ever changing definitions and pronouns. Men cannot become women and vice versa.

We really do have to stick to language with evidenced based definitions. Where the hell are we without language with meaning. 1984 - that's where.

Darth - a very prescient song.

Love Kate Bush.

Now the nuttiest elements of trans ideology have come for the words male and female. We knew this would happen. Don't buckle to them mnhq! I am Spartacus. Transwomen are male.

I am Spartacus, men are men etc. this will be clearly demonstrated in about 10 years time when the human metabolome has been completed.

I am Spartacus but this "hill" is really more of a mountain. The sort of mountain where you think you've reached the top but there's always another peak just a bit higher. I'm tired & grumpy. Can't I just sit here & pretend there are no more peaks?!

I am Spartacus.

I appreciate there may well be be legal shenanigans going on, maybe a particular person possibly putting pressure on MNHQ with regards to that person having the 'protected characteristic of sex reassignment' under the Equality Act, meaning MNHQ can't be seen to be allowing posters to 'misgender' that person (not had time to read all the comments, anyone better informed than me who can confirm that that's the likely scenario - that pressure's been applied, and that MNHQ are legally obligated to comply or risk consequences...?) Whatever, I can appreciate that.

I'd like others to appreciate that I don't go out of my way to be offensive or divisive - I use 'preferred pronouns' as a matter of courtesy with any trans-id'd folk I know, plus those on SM who show me the courtesy of not trying to force radical transgender ideology on me. It's the same approach I try to take with people who adhere to all kinds of other religious, philosohical or ideological belief systems that I personally reject.

But biology matters, and I absolutely reserve the right to name biological & material reality as it actually exists; I will not comply with being forced to say things I do not believe to be true. I will not say that a transwoman is a woman. And I will never drop the fight to protect (& extend) sex-segregated spaces & services that protect women & girls.

Budge up on the hill ladies, I'll be with you in 5 - bringing

I'm Spartacus.

Transwomen and women are equal - but different!

See the THIS

I am Spartacus

Biology isn't bigotry

It feels like time for a name change as one of my posts has made it to twitter and I think this is a good theme to go with once again.

I am spartacus, biology matters.

I am not a feminist.

I reject cis - I was not assigned a sex at birth I simply am female and have been since long before I was born.

I am happy to call a trans woman a trans woman. I don't have a problem with using feminine or gender neutral pronouns. I believe everyone has the right to look, dress, feel however they want including trans women. I believe they have the right to safe places. But as trans women (male) these need to be entirely separate to female safe places.

I feel genuinely sad for the trans women I see in every day life going about their business, living life in their own way to whom I have always been kind and accepting and am sorry for any hurt that this shitstorm brought on by trans rights activists might have caused them.

I agree with the potential for abuse of the proposed gra, but more than that I think it's a basic issue of consent.

If I walk into a sexed changing or showering facility I am consenting to getting naked with other females. I am not consenting to showing my body to males. Its that simple to me.

I wish more people would sign the petition. I believe they don't because they believe self id is so ludicrous that "it will never happen" , but Girl Guides, Caledonian, etc, etc have shown this not to be the case.

Having recentlto y been deleted for using male pronouns to refer to a TIM, I can only agree.

I will not refer to males as women. It is an erasure of my womanhood, of what it means to be a woman.

I too am Spartacus.

I am Spartacus

I’m feeling anger, as others, at being coercively controlled through the moderation policy here on MN.

First, what I’m angry about is that in policing my use of pronouns, there’s an implicit false accusation that when I use male as an adjective for a TW, that I am being provocative. I am not. I am telling the truth. The person I am looking at and receiving is a man - that is what I see. Why am I being punished for telling the truth? Transwoman = Trans Identified Male (TIM) = Male. That is what my body, eyes and brain tells me. I am not deluded nor being provocative - quite the contrary.

Corruption of free speech matters- it is the weapon of totalitarian regimes. It’s decisive to coerce people to use another language proscribed by someone else. I refuse to surrender my right to free speech and to speak the truth.

Secondly, there seems to be a disconnect between what Justine said publicly recently and the moderation here on MN. Tone policing and language policing is thought policing by proxy. It is trauma uninformed i.e. it harms all women who have experienced male violence as it replicates those dynamics at play in abusive intimate relationships. AS we all know all too well, this will impact a significant number here, maybe the majority, on MN. Why is this happening, here on MN of all places?

In addition, I imagine a lot of trolls are reporting comments as vindictive payback, to undermine the collective women’s’ voice here re Transgender. What happens then is we get blamed for those reports. It is not our doing. It is not cause and effect at play here – it is orchestration to create mayhem and undermine the fabric of MN and the debate here. It is imperative MNHQ’s moderation is congruent with what Justine stated at the weekend. We are not the ones being provocative – we are angry – we have a right to express that anger. We are not harming anyone – where is the proof of that?

Some other people who agree with this stance:

Jordan Peterson 2 min video re pronouns -

“Corruption of speech matters - look back in history at totalitarian regimes. I refuse to repeat that history. I will speak the truth. These pronouns are made up and I will not be forced to say them”

Why are we mainstreaming delusion? - Ben Shapiro – 2 mins video:

I am Spartacus too, I believe in biology and also commonsense which seems to be in short supply amongst some...

I've no quibble with trans people being able to get on with their lives in peace etc but not at the expense of women and girls.

*divisive not decisive

I am Spartacus. Transwomen are biologically male and there is nothing wrong with that.

I’m Spartacus. For all the reasons everyone else has so eloquently expressed. The cards are stacked against women from conception and now our biological identity is being taken from us.

I'm Spartacus. Come at me. I will die on this hill.

This is FEMALE! *

*Said like that Butler one in the pleated frock in "300" - cept I'm an actual female evidenced by my biological make up and the sex based oppression experienced because of it.

I am Spartacus biology is fact not fiction

Still Spartacus.

Women and girls exist and need to retain their hard won sex based protections.

Gender is harmful stereotype which should be challenged, not used as a yardstick to measure if someone is a boy or a girl.

No child is born in the wrong body, both sexes can wear what they like and love who they want so long as it's consensual.

Lesbians are females who fancy other females, lesbians are never male. I am sick of people bullying lesbian or remaining silent on the issue There is a whole raft of health implications that exist when you sleep with a male that will still exist if you sleep with a male lesbian.

Genderism is a religion, it is based on pseudo science, sexist stereotypes and magical thinking.

No, I will think for myself and I will centre women and girls until men improve.

Bloody hell...

Spartacus signing up here. Let me just have my morning cuppa and I'll be over at the hill.

I agree with everything DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus said.

The idea that a child can have the "wrong" personality or interests for their sex has been hurting children for longer than any of us have been alive. Isn't it time for us as a society to let that idea go?

I'm Spartacus too, I'm a woman because of biology and I will NOT give up what it means to be a woman for someone else's preferences. The mountain is incredibly high though and other life stuff is making it hard to climb, so I hope others fighting harder know that I'm behind you even if quite a way behind.

I am Spartacus.
Biology is real. Biology matters.