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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I'm falling in love with Sophie Walker

28 replies

QuentinSummers · 09/04/2018 07:58

Don't know what's happened but she seems to be going full on feminist. Currently attempting to "debate" prostitution on twitter.
At last someone taking a position I agree with! AND she wants to debate gender more openly. Might join WEP! (And I was on the car crash webchat!)

mobile.twitter.com/SophieRunning/status/983085367216701440

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CAAKE · 09/04/2018 08:23

Yes, I was just coming on here to see if there was a post about Sophie. She's caused a Twitter kerfuffle because she's come out as a "SWERF". The TRAs and others are out in force - twitter.com/sophierunning/status/983105482444431360?s=21

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 09/04/2018 08:28

Good to see a politician speaking out against the rape trade Star

GenderApostate · 09/04/2018 08:29

Yes, I’ve actually been liking and retweeting her posts! Seems like she’s been talking to some good people or doing some in depth research Smile

Believeitornot · 09/04/2018 08:34

Have been reading. Have to say I hate the terms TERF and SWERF as it’s just glorified name calling.

Good for her - I’ll do something more reading.

ZERF · 09/04/2018 08:36

I really don't understand how people can think buying a woman for sex is a feminist thing Sad (re all the women criticising her)

I find it hard to see where to post support on her page as she quotes tweets all the time.

I am pleased she seems to keen to open debate and differences opinions. I was impressed with tweets around autism recently.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 09/04/2018 08:39

If she carries on as she is, I won't have to spoil my ballot paper after all. That's if they are running in my area.

IndominusRex · 09/04/2018 08:45

This is making me really hopeful.

ZERF · 09/04/2018 08:50

I'm not very knowledgeable about all this.

Is the Nordic Model seen as a good option?

Does SW support that or is she talking about other things?

QuentinSummers · 09/04/2018 08:59

She supports Nordic model and is posting anti-decrim stuff.
She wants to support women so prostitution isn't a "choice" for them. She is getting piled on by choosy choice happy hookers.
I think she is being incredibly brave. Go Sophie

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ZERF · 09/04/2018 09:01

Oh well, I'm all for her then. Nordic model makes sense to me; I find the website explains it really well.

ZERF · 09/04/2018 09:02

I'm confused as some comments seem to say she's in favour of criminalising both women and punters.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 09/04/2018 09:17

OMG those comments.

0phelia · 09/04/2018 09:18

nordicmodelnow.org

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 09/04/2018 09:27

I'm confused as some comments seem to say she's in favour of criminalising both women and punters

That's standard pro-pimp&punter gaslightery

Those profiting from the rape trade insist that giving more relative power to prostituted women will really really harm them.

ZERF · 09/04/2018 09:45

Thanks, that's what I thought.

LangCleg · 09/04/2018 09:46

The pro P&P side is out in force at the moment because over in the US Backpage has been closed down and Craigslist dumped some of its sections used to advertise prostitution - both due to child trafficking issues (it's kind of analogous to our grooming scandals here, to put it in context). Suddenly, the issue of child exploitation in the sex industry is front and centre.

So Sophie has waded in at a particular fraught time. I say brave!

@lisamuggeridge3 has been talking about this on Twitter over the last day. Well worth reading her feed.

Nextloorejext · 09/04/2018 09:57

Think it was the buffoon that is Neville (please like me) that kicked it all off. Caroline C P also getting a kicking.

changeypants · 09/04/2018 10:02

trying not to get excited. would so love a political home.

they will have to get the woman stuff right though, whatever they say about prostitution.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 09/04/2018 10:03

I'll support prostitution as work just as soon as all the standard H&S procedures around bodily fluids are honoured, and everyone has appropriate insurance.

Oh, you say it's not possible to do that? Well then, prostitution just isn't possible whilst keeping women safe is it, and no-one should be allowed to buy women.

I'm not a SWERF, I'm a PTRERF (Pay to Rape Exclusionary Radical Feminist).

UpstartCrow · 09/04/2018 10:07

This tweet is being used as support for sex work being a choice. It has a trigger warning at the start;

twitter.com/sarahthemoose/status/982720956463505408

It only seems to be a valid choice for women. Men have other, better choices.

BabyItsAWildWorld · 09/04/2018 10:29

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0phelia · 09/04/2018 10:51

WEP were pro Nordic Model from their very beginning and attracted my support. I was very surprised when they suddenly forgot about women's issues when it came to transwomen, but also not surprised because a vocal TRA has been dominating their direction at the centre.

I might go back to supporting them again because SW has leaned slightly more to the GC side recently, after the Heather B.E catastrophe.

Nordic model is in their original manifesto and SW knows what she is talking about here.

Nextloorejext · 09/04/2018 12:12

Sophie insists it’s the members who set the party’s agenda and aims. Maybe we should sll join and have our say then.

53rdWay · 09/04/2018 12:19

Yes I’ve been following this. Good for Sophie.

Would say I’m surprised to see so many “left-wing” and “feminist” men yelling at her over this, but I’m really not. Fuckers.

Did anyone see the conversation between Rachel Moran and Neville Southall where he actually asked her why she got so angry about this issue? I mean FFS...

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 09/04/2018 12:40

he actually asked her why she got so angry about this issue?

Words fail me