Really, MNHQ?

[JellySlice]

In the current Lidl survey.

Must you?

"Other"

Thanks Hebe

"It's us. Not blue haired teenagers.* When my son was at university his closest supermarket was Lidl and he always shopped there for convenience as well as cost. He was a teenager, all his student friends were teenagers. Plenty of teenagers shop in Lidl, they don't all have blue hair though.

My family are mixed race we self identify as we wish, sometimes white British (we all have dual nationality so am I feeling British today or not?) Sometimes as white other (whatever that means) some times as black/mixed race/afro caribbean.

I did a survey last week, National Office of Statistics, and the interviewer kept checking as she clearly wasn't happy with my answer. Tough, no one else's business and I offer the same courtesy to people who decide to identify as male or female even if other people object.

My parents had a mixed marriage as did my ILs, in those days there were laws in some countries/states in the US that wouldn't recognise the marriages as mixed marriages were illegal. Seems bizarre now.

Eh? As far as I could tell, the Lidl survey was about sex / gender, not race.

@ragusa Agree with you on this issue I think there are bigger fish to fry we should pick our battles. Intersex people do exist. Also, lild is a corporate business and wants to sell products to people, so stats regarding their customers identity helps them to sell more...

I think a lot of the critical tone here is due to the inability to express other opinions in other formats, without fear of censure or public shaming, so it can be quite liberating to vent your suppressed opinions.

Having said that we need to be able to express different opinions. I came to MN because I wanted to find a different viewpoint from the mainstream transwomen are women transwomen are women transwomen are women mantra. I don't think you should be snidey to someone because they have a different opinion, isn't it better to debate? The rest of the internet is so nasty I don't want that to start in here...

Nobody is the king of MN, you can't tell people to 'shut up and go away' if they have an opinion. That's why we're on here isn't it, because we can't express an opinion anywhere else?

@hebemumsnet if you're making a change anyway and given that this is Mumsnet rather than Dadsnet, how about having the options as female/male/prefer not to say?
pretty please? [wonders to self if bribery with smileys has any chance of working...]

And if anyone is interested, there's an interesting article about the tricky topic of asking about gender on forms that is coming at it from the form design and user experience angle rather than trans activists - it's on the UX Collective website.

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Thanks @MNHQ

Good point @bunbunnny. Though I fear I might tip Insight over the edge if I ask them to change it again today. All the smileys in the world won't save me then! I will pass on your thoughts though for the future. It's a fair point.

And again, this time on the McDonalds survey: