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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Madigan wants to be searched by a woman

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Gacapa · 15/03/2018 16:53

And she should be forced to search his male body...

Madigan wants to be searched by a woman
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OlennasWimple · 19/03/2018 13:04

smile Grin

My take on it is that LM was a teen boy who was near invisible to teen girls, he thought he might be gay but decided instead he is trans. Cue loads of fawning attention, girls telling them how "brave" and "stunning" they are. Now LM says they are a lesbian and some poor handmaiden will probably find it flattering that LM wants to sleep with them. Angry

And that's without thinking about the cotton ceiling implications of the "non-negotiable" bit Hmm

ohfortuna · 19/03/2018 13:08

LM was a teen boy who was near invisible to teen girls
Absolutely!
it's just a tactic to try and get sexual access to women
A completely transparent tactic I might add, well we can see straight through him... Others apparently not 🙄

picklemepopcorn · 19/03/2018 13:56

Non negotiable joins literal violence in the dictionary of meaningless phrases.

Lily's tweet about neoliberal blah blah blah needs answering 'You ok, hun? PM me!'

CapnHaddock · 19/03/2018 14:15

@ohfortuna - not as far as I know. But he is surrounded by fawning handmaidens who tell him how brave and beautiful he is the whole time.

CapnHaddock · 19/03/2018 14:19

And re being invisible before transitioning, you're bang on. Bex Stinson, head of trans inclusion at Stonewall wrote of his own transition that it transformed him from "a hidden little misfit guy who knew nobody, to outrageously transtastic bitch in a couple of months."

ArcheryAnnie · 19/03/2018 15:05

head of trans inclusion

This reminds me that this "head of trans inclusion" claims to have never met any detransitioners. Which makes me think either they are lying, or they are just really, really shit at their job. Either way, it's not a good look for Stonewall.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 19/03/2018 16:16

smilethoyourheartisbreaking
Who would have thunk it that we've reached the point that being Bi is both the easiest to understand AND the least greedy.
GrinGrinGrin

ohfortuna · 19/03/2018 16:50

But he is surrounded by fawning handmaidens who tell him how brave and beautiful he is the whole time
they get to score some easy points by playing the cool/liberal/ gender non binary cards, however I doubt that he will get any actual lesbian action (?)
maybe he's content to just have his ego stroked?

thebewilderness · 19/03/2018 17:03

It appears that Madigan has committed to being that mythical LGBT person so often spoken of in the press and online.

DarthArts · 19/03/2018 18:00

Tbh I'm surprised by the commotion over TerfBlocker.

I thought being politically shat on by a man was the ultimate validation of being "a real woman".

Truth is I think the cracks are starting to show. When you try and shield so many people under the same umbrella somebody is going to get wet.

TinLizzy · 22/03/2018 14:26

Liam has now declared himself 'schizophrenic'. My cynical side thinks it's a lie so he can add another way of shutting down comments on his behaviour, so we are terfs, bigots AND disablist (sp?) if we comment.

Fekko · 22/03/2018 14:30

The kid needs to see a doctor for a proper diagnosis of the various ailments they claim (self diagnosis isn't worth the paper its written on) and step away from social media and the limelight (and the cheerleaders) to make some sense of the world.

hackmum · 22/03/2018 14:57

Schizophrenic? And autistic? And trans? Blimey.

Fekko · 22/03/2018 15:06

And lesbian.

Ritzsaltedcrackers · 22/03/2018 15:07

Yes, I see Lily is now a lesbian.

Not a straight man with mental health problems, at all.

Collidascope · 22/03/2018 15:12

I'm liking Lily's patronising tweet about how annoying it is when people write "transwomen" instead of "trans women" which has been replied to with an article he wrote 7 weeks ago in which he referred to "transwomen" about six times.
Lily, for the love of all things same in this world, think before you tweet. If you wanna be a politician, you need to learn to lie and contradict yourself without getting caught.

RedToothBrush · 22/03/2018 15:22

OK I'll bite.

I said this about Heather Peto (who has sleeping beauty syndrome). I am all for supporting people with disabilities in politics and in parliament. But there is still a problem here, with individuals who have medical problems which make them have issues regarding reality. If its a managed condition then great, but if its something that affects you extensively and might limit / impair your ability to serve other vulnerable people in the capacity of a role of MP then, yes I have a problem with it and I do think that needs to be considered by selection panels.

This isn't about prejudice. This is about understanding the demands of the job and understanding the needs and interests of those you want to represent. And putting those people first. This is especially true if you are a Labour member as that's a huge part of the ideology.

Its about taking that responsibility seriously and being honest about what your limitations are. There are plenty of other political roles you could take and roles in which you can be an activist, without it potentially having an impact on others in the same way.

Jared O'Mara's time as MP has already been marred. His attitude and demands for support have gone down badly in Westminster primarily because of the way he has gone about it. This is Labour and other parties alike. His constituents have been left high and dry, with some turning to the LDs in desperation to get help. There are MPs with cancer who turn up in the HoC. There are women who take extremely short maternity leave who serve in the HoC. Because that's the brutal reality of the job and because people depend on them and there are parts of the job that can not be covered by other people.

There are plenty of people who have physical disabilities who would be cracking at the job. There are plenty of people who mental health issues who would be equally as good if not better than so many sitting MPs.

There does have to be a point where a party steps in and says, "is supporting this person as an individual in the best interests of the vulnerable people they might serve". If its going to create a conflict where the need of the few not the many comes first, that's an issue that needs to be said honestly, rather than being an elephant in the room or swept under the carpet. (And yes, that phrase is important if you actually believe it).

I think perhaps though, that LM popping out that they have schizophrenia today, is rather odd. Today, legal action is being seriously talked about. Having a condition where you have trouble with reality, is real handy sometimes.

Yes I'm cynical but that's a product of the bullshit that these three have been responsible for. I believe they have harmed the political interests and ambitions of other disabled people and people with mental health issues with their antics. And yes I do use that word deliberately, because I think they have trivialised and tried to silence some pretty bloody serious issues.

(If that makes me sound like a hard right winger to some, then fine. It comes from a place of believing that politics shouldn't be about the MP but the people they serve, and a similar point expressed in a different way could be levelled at numerous selfish bastards in parliament).

LifelongVaginaOwner · 22/03/2018 15:36

Today, legal action is being seriously talked about. Having a condition where you have trouble with reality, is real handy sometimes.

Yep. I have no doubt Lily & Lily's minions monitor these pages

LifelongVaginaOwner · 22/03/2018 15:37

Also. Brava RTB Magnificent post

ArcheryAnnie · 23/03/2018 11:30

RedToothBrush that was a brilliant post, thank you.

There have been MPs seriously ill in hospital who have been driven, while wired up to medical equipment to New Palace Yard to vote in important votes. They've been bought in their hospital gowns in taxis, the whips have come out to New Palace Yard to verify their votes, and they've been driven straight back to hospital. One MP I had a few years ago withdrew from the election when it was clear he wouldn't any longer be physically well enough to do the ridiculous hours expected of an MP. Other MPs and Peers with disabilities have been able to be far more productive than some MPs and Peers without disabilities - it depends on the person. But an honest accounting of one's own abilities is important. (And this is true of any MP, whether disabled or not.)

On a much minor note, I've previously resigned from a job I was very good at, and that I loved, because for health reasons I realised at the time that if I'd kept at it, I wouldn't be able to do it as well as I'd done it previously, and it was a job that needed to be done by someone at the peak of their performance. I left because I really wanted the project to continue to succeed, and the best chance of it succeeding would be it being done by someone other than me. No amount of "reasonable adjustments" would have enabled me to continue to do it well, so I did what I thought best for the sake of the work.

ChattyLion · 23/03/2018 14:19

Spot on RTB

fascinated · 23/03/2018 14:23

Is trans the latest strategy for incels after PuA?

RedToothBrush · 23/03/2018 14:27

In a word fascinated, yes.

But that's not necessarily trans themselves. Equally its the 'bros' who push it too going on about how liberal they are. Also see politicians after 'political love'.

Its why the movement is so much bigger than the actual number of trans people.

DarthArts · 25/03/2018 02:45

So LM latest - see below.

Fails to mention the victim was murdered by a man.

Madigan wants to be searched by a woman
AngryAttackKittens · 25/03/2018 05:10

I think that if your going to have a job ie prison officer airport security police etc where pat downs/ searches are expected then you shouldnt be uncomfortable with having to possibly search a trans person or anyone else for that matter
If staff are uncomfortable then they should surley be sent home unable to do their job? And be given adjustments or a different role

And here we go again with the demand that working class people facilitate the feels of trans people at the expense of their own feelings/employment rights.