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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The TERF Awards 2018.

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TERFragetteCity · 12/03/2018 18:16

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ElenOfTheWays · 13/03/2018 12:23

Hi Peachyoghurt. This video led me to your others. Brilliant stuff. My fave so far has to be the non-binary porn one. Lmao. Really, I was crying. 😂😂.

As far as the socialisation thing. I must have missed that along with the housework gene. Grin.

I've never had a problem with laughing at men being ridiculous. If they don't want to be laughed at, then they shouldn't be ridiculous.

BeUpStanding · 13/03/2018 12:32

Whoo!!! Hi Peachyogurt! Another fangirl here... You & your videos are excellent Grin

dorothyparka · 13/03/2018 13:16

Thanks Peachyoghurt!
The video's uncomfortable viewing for reasons discussed: we're conditioned not to cause upset even to the deluded. But the deluded are now dictating policy - while our concerns are dismissed as 'hysteria'Hmm

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 13/03/2018 13:42

I'm a fan girl too!! I love you Peach!! Your work is awesome and important.

OlennasWimple · 13/03/2018 13:53

We wondered where the rest of the Madigan family were, why no one seems to have stepped in and given Lily some better advice?

One of LM's siblings got thrown under the bus by being blamed for all the bad stuff in Liam Madigan's old Twitter account. Another was trying to be protected by the school at the time that LM was suing them (one of the reasons that the school gave for being reluctant to change Liam's name to Lily or allow LM to wear a skirt was that LM's younger sister was also at the school and was struggling to deal to LM's coming out and demands)

LM's mother appears to be struggling to deal with it all too, and who can blame her? (LM kindly told the world via twitter that she had been heard "dead naming" LM and wishing that LM wasn't coming home that day). I would love her to be on MN and get some proper support from the amazing women on here who have had similar experiences, albeit in a much less high profile way

Red - yes, LM is almost the walking definition of a useful idiot. It's interesting that the vast majority of the string pullers appear to be men. If LM had an ounce of critical thinking ability, perhaps it would be worth LM pausing and considering why these men are championing the LM cause? Why are they not supporting all the many talented women in the Labour Party instead? What is their track record on supporting and promoting women? Why is a 19/20 year old transwoman being prioritised over women who have been active in the Party for 19/20 years?

LostArt · 13/03/2018 14:01

In what way did thebewilderness post break guidelines? I don't remember anything controversial.

It beats me why the Canadian government used steponknee as an advisor. If they can't see that performance as a fetish, God help them.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/03/2018 14:37

Thanks Olenna I knew the brother had been scapegoated(?) for an old twitter account but had no idea about the rest!

That has actually left me speechless!

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 13/03/2018 14:42

I could become obsessed with Stephonknee.

I have so many questions..

Will his father be arrested for paedophilic acts?

Does he go to school or kindergarten?

Shouldn't he get arrested for driving a snowplough at 7 years old?

Will he receive his pension only when he's biologically 112?

Kneedeepinunicorns · 13/03/2018 14:51

Mick Stephonknee is acting out a sexual fetish (and it's a fairly common one) but has linked it to the trans narrative which lends all shiny new validation and blurred boundaries. He gets to play his sexual role in public, in front of other people, so using them as props in his jollies, and this is where it gets really mucky. If we agree that Stephonknee is trans and therefore must be exactly what he says he is.... then its going to be very difficult to argue when he announces he's going to join Brownies and use your eight year old dd as a prop in his fetish. If legally an autogynephile guy can get his best wank fodder in the womens changing rooms and that's fine - and women around him know damn well he's turned on by their discomfort but aren't allowed to do anything but play along with the obvious lie 'he's a woman', then how do you say no to Stephonknee getting his kicks being validated by adults having to play along with him? And real children getting involved?

There have to be lines. Objective reality is the only grounds for qualification into a class or group, the 'feelz' in the head are fine in your personal life but you don't get to co opt others into them.

Oh and.... wow. Peaches ... your videos are amazing. Your 'this sofa was coercively assigned sofa at birth but identifies as a bike' was just brilliant.

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 13/03/2018 15:10

Exactly @Kneedeepinunicorns I want him to be questioned in detail about his authenticity to the life he wants others to accept about him.

I'd be really interested to hear that.

And if it's acceptable in Canada to be transage what happens if a f*cktonne of people identify as a 65 year old and demand their pension?

Peachyoghurt · 13/03/2018 15:33

Thanks for the kind words and the support. Much appreciated. :)

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2018 15:50

We wondered where the rest of the Madigan family were, why no one seems to have stepped in and given Lily some better advice?

Because this is a cult. The first thing they do is go and say how your family are all evil, and set off all these ideas in their heads about how the family will react, stating its because they are transphobic.

So when the family do come and raise questions, it plays to all the insecurities and the narrative they have already been taught. Thus they then trust the person who has told them what will happen because they were 'right' all along.

They then set up alternative support systems, which also encourages disengagement with the family.

Plus the whole business of dead naming. Families, no matter what they do, are a constant reminder of their former self and from that alone don't allow the person to reinvent themselves and bury their previous lives.

In many cases, by the time the person comes out to them, the damage is done, and its an uphill battle which can be next to impossible, because its already been set up, that everything you do isn't going far enough and isn't supportive enough and hell aren't we all so much more supporting.

They've been groomed.

Put that into context with how thats now being used in politics.

I have to say that I am starting to think that level of identity politics in Corbyn's world is disturbing. It is as disturbing as alt right and needs to be seen as such, because of the way its latched on to individuals and groups like Madigan.

Corbyn and his supporters were all incredibly scathing of political spin, because they viewed it as basically dishonest.

They talk a lot about neo-liberal capitalism which has been totally unrestrained and without limit. And how there is no social conscious or responsibility economically. Corbyn was lauded as having integrity and credibility for being critical of it.

So what the hell is this?

Here he is embracing spin on steroids, telling 'the big lie' just like other politicians of his day. Call it 'neo-spin' if you will, with no consideration nor responsibility for social impact.

Its every bit as dishonest, and more than what he criticised Blair for. It was right to criticise Blair for doing it, but the solution certainly isn't to try and look Blair an amateur at it.

Its been used to try and sell politics as something you watch on youtube and can understand in depth just a few short clips. Its being sold as some new reality tv show with all its stars.

Everyone wants to be the brand new star of the Labour party, with all their followers and all the selfies with the right person. You are helping to sell the brand as cool. Everyone should join. Otherwise you are just like the villains of the story so far: the family (who were stitched up from the word go and just wanted to make sure their family member wasn't doing something stupid or they'd later regret because the made the mistake of loving them).

Its working. For now. But the bubble will burst. People will grow tired and disillusioned by it, as they grow older. Not because they are more right wing, but because fantasies are just that, and reality has this really fucking nasty habit of being real.

Then you get the scandal, five, ten years from now. Of course Corbyn is already over 70.

Guess how this story all ends for Lily? There's a few possibilities. One is the family are the ones who pick up the pieces and they all life happily ever after. The others aren't quite so pleasant. Many do include having no money and no home.

Of course, that narrative is also already set up. The cult already have their end of days persecution complex ingrained into the mentality of members. Its like a self fulling prophesy. But not one because Lily happens to be trans.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/03/2018 16:01

I can't say thanks for that red but you know what I mean! Sad Angry Confused Angry

IFancyASliceOfCake · 13/03/2018 16:08

Excellent post, AskBasil

PeachyYogurt is brilliant.

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2018 16:09

This is where I say, i'd be happy to be wrong about the whole thing.

I'm waiting for them to prove it.

wigglybeezer · 13/03/2018 16:56

I have to say that I was more drawn to other videos further down the list from Peachy's latest: There is one about Kevin Weinstein from Evergreen College, documenting an SJW takeover of the college campus that has chilling parallels with attempts by TRAs to shut down debate on gender issues, and the actions of the college principal reminded me of the Labour Party, worth watching.

wigglybeezer · 13/03/2018 17:03

sorry, that should be Brett Weinstein , link:

InfiniteSheldon · 13/03/2018 17:45

Peachy That is brilliant

thebewilderness · 13/03/2018 18:12

In what way did thebewilderness post break guidelines? I don't remember anything controversial.
I am guessing it is because I said they are abusive males.
People who refuse to take no for an answer are not safe to be around.

LostArt · 13/03/2018 18:40

"I am guessing it is because I said they are abusive males."

Ah, ok. Good job that comment was deleted, now we can continue to believe that they are harmless females.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 13/03/2018 18:52

They're still deleting posters who call a male a male? Cop on, MNHQ

LizzieSiddal · 13/03/2018 19:00

Red I agree with every word you’ve said about LM.

I hope they do a degree in Politics. Can you imagine their reaction when asked to listen to or discuss, both sides of an argument.

I think their head would explode!

AngryAttackKittens · 13/03/2018 19:01

Testing...

Shon Faye is an angry man and you can tell it by looking at this video, and Stefoknee is a middle aged man and not a little girl. Are we allowed to point this out?

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 13/03/2018 19:04

It would be extremely frightening if we're not, Angry.

Time was believing you were Napoleon got you time on a locked ward, not feted in the media.

Fekko · 13/03/2018 19:08

So the 'adoptee' dad figure in the video is also this characters sexual partner? The character being aged is that of a small girl? Which he is adamant he is? And his wife is OK with this and the wider family have no issues with their kids being around this?

It's like slow news week on the national enquirer.