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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Curious as to what type of feminist you are?

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Rottweilers · 07/03/2018 17:09

That’s it really. Radical, Liberal ect.
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BertrandRussell · 09/03/2018 15:01

“Because feminism doesn't include males and their equal rights“

Well, if we’re aiming for equality for women then equality for men comes as a given! But what sort of equal rights for men do you mean?

BertrandRussell · 09/03/2018 15:04

To be a radical feminist you don’t have to tear down all patriarchal structures and rebuild them in one go - it’s more a brick by brick approach.

crunchymint · 09/03/2018 15:05

Radical feminism, but it is not, or should not be an identity. It simply means I agree with the theories and work to be part of the radical feminist movement to change society.

ConstantlyCold · 09/03/2018 15:11

To be a radical feminist you don’t have to tear down all patriarchal structures and rebuild them in one go - it’s more a brick by brick approach

But what does it actually look like in practice. I can get my head round Lib fem approach’s - changing political and societal systems and conventions to promote equality. I’m just not quite sure what a rad fem approach looks like in practice.

YassQueen · 09/03/2018 15:20

Do people still think that feminism doesn't mean equality for men too? How does that mindset even work?!

If you have equality, there is no "equality for too". If we have equality, we have equality. Women are equal to men. There's no "ah, but are men equal to women?". The clue is in the word. Equal.

YassQueen · 09/03/2018 15:20

That was supposed to say "there is no "equality for men too"".

SenecaFalls · 09/03/2018 15:35

I’m just not quite sure what a rad fem approach looks like in practice.

I think if you look at the history of the battered women's movement, you can see quite a bit of radical feminism at work, but often using liberal feminism strategy and tactics. One example is pushing to change laws, and then pushing for their enforcement which has resulted, in the United States at least (I'm American), in fundamental changes in societal attitudes toward domestic violence.

holycheeseplant · 09/03/2018 16:02

To be a radical feminist you don’t have to tear down all patriarchal structures and rebuild them in one go - it’s more a brick by brick approach.

Yes I can't get my head around the completely tear it down thing - it's almost anarchy! But the brick by brick makes sense; from the top and from the bottom (ie how young children are brought up).

ConstantlyCold · 09/03/2018 16:10

Yes I can't get my head around the completely tear it down thing

I can’t get on board with a “tear it all down” approach. Brick by brick sounds quite lib femy to me. As seneca mentioned in her example. There’s a radical fem movement (I’m probably using the wrong word there) but they use lib fem means to achieve their aims.

holycheeseplant · 09/03/2018 16:15

No I think brick by brick means approaching it from far more angles that the lib fem approach. Societal attitudes, emphasising the way stereotypes are harmful and actively working to dismantle them while also working on equal pay etc. I think rad fem may also mean more recognition of women's biology/ maternity / bf rights etc?

ConstantlyCold · 09/03/2018 16:26

No I think brick by brick means approaching it from far more angles that the lib fem approach

So more of a cultural approach to change even though the actual strategies used are lib fem ones. Makes sense.

holycheeseplant · 09/03/2018 16:48

I'm a novice so I'd appreciate others explaining it better, but that's how I'm starting to understand it. (If that's right!)

You can change laws and tackle pay gaps but there's only so much that filters through to peoples day to day lives. I feel campaigns such as let toys be toys are a different brick helping to dismantle the patriarchy. So much is ingrained from early on, so much unconscious bias, it's about noticing, naming and calling out these issues no matter how tiny. (?)

DioneTheDiabolist · 09/03/2018 16:54

Liberal feminist.

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