Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This is what Helen from Mermaids writes about MN feminist posters

489 replies

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/02/2018 12:05

"If you’re a Mum and on mn that often to have time to engage with ‘feminist’ forums, you’re more likely to be a ‘stay at home mum’. These are bored middle-class women putting their privileged Uni-educated thoughts to oppressing a small, vulnerable, oppressed sector of society"

Nice bit of sexism going on there

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/967731110322036736

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 25/02/2018 15:53

Thanks Upstart. That's what I've been trying to tell dh...

OrderOnline · 25/02/2018 15:53

Will you call the Fuzz on everyone?

Jeffrey tried that.

QuentinSummers · 25/02/2018 15:57

This is so hilarious.
People on mumsnet diss the feminist board for "thinking SAHMs can't be feminist"
People off mumsnet think the feminist board is full of bored housewives.
Hilarious Grin

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2018 15:57

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 25/02/2018 16:02

I'm glad you said cognitive dissonance.

It's completely impossible for her to ever extricate herself from the rabbit hole. She'd have to accept that she's enabled a loved one to mutilate themselves. No one is going to accept a world view that includes that. So cognitive dissonance all the way.

OrderOnline · 25/02/2018 16:03

The little Mermaid

Kids movies, what a bitch.

DaisyDrip · 25/02/2018 16:04

They block every one who disagrees so are grandstanding to an echo chamber. The best of it is, they then believe the majority of people support them. Like I said, mad as a box of frogs.

PS Helen, I've just walked the dog, mopped the kitchen and bathroom floors and vacuumed through. Is that ok with you? Does that match your criteria for lazy? Oh, I scrubbed the loo as well.

Fab post RedToothBrush.

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2018 16:14

The rest of her life is dedicated to the pursuit of reassuring herself that she did the right thing.

She is defined and trapped by it.

Would you rather be a degree educated, middle class, sahm who things and tries to find alternatives or be someone who has to justify their own actions by leading other young men and women blindly down the same route?

Difficult choice that one.

Elendon · 25/02/2018 16:17

The mermaid myth is a religious myth. It's all about the continuation of the soul.

Hans Christian Anderson. From Wikipedia

*The prince and princess celebrate their new marriage on a wedding ship, and the Little Mermaid's heart breaks. She thinks of all that she has sacrificed and of all the pain she has endured for the prince. She despairs, thinking of the death that awaits her, but before dawn, her sisters rise out of the water and bring her a knife that the Sea Witch has given them in exchange for their long, beautiful hair. If the Little Mermaid kills the prince and lets his blood drip on her feet, she will become a mermaid once more, all of her suffering will end, and she will live out her full life in the ocean with her family.

However, the Little Mermaid cannot bring herself to kill the sleeping prince lying with his new bride, and she throws the knife and herself off the ship into the water just as dawn breaks. Her body dissolves into foam, but instead of ceasing to exist, she feels the warm sun and discovers that she has turned into a luminous and ethereal earthbound spirit, a daughter of the air. As the Little Mermaid ascends into the atmosphere, she is greeted by other daughters who tell her she has become like them because she strove with all her heart to obtain an immortal soul. Because of her selflessness, she is given the chance to earn her own soul by doing good deeds to mankind for 300 years and will one day rise up into the Kingdom of God.*

A wee bit different from the Disney version.

DaisyDrip · 25/02/2018 16:18

RedToothBrush Agree. Her epitaph will be 'mother of a transgendered kid'. I'd like mine to be a bit more wide and varied than a one issue life.

mamaryllis · 25/02/2018 16:23

No no. Mermaids are sexy innit. They are every man's dream. Hear 'em singing and combing their pretty long blonde hair and they irresistabubble. Their milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Mermaids is perfick, because every man wants to be desired by all the other menz so they want long blonde hair and a a bikini top. Being a woman is entirely, solely, and completely about being irresistible to men, innit. It is weird that they chose a siren as their logo. Yes. Bloody weird.

Just checking in. Retired ex-military (yes, you fuckers, I see you with your 'first woman in the infantry' literal bollocks - and the levels of misogyny that I fought through out) still work ft in civilian career, first in family to go to university but only once I retired, three kids, one of whom is GNC, one of whom is disabled. DH is perfectly capable of looking after himself (and them) while I neglect them entirely. He'll have the dinner on the table shortly.
But thanks for the stupid stereotyping. It just reinforces your own ideology, which is completely based on outdated gender stereotypes. It's weird to buy into stereotyping so hard that you will literally sterilize children in order to ensure they do it too btw. Heaven forbid we just ignore stereotypes and e dry one just do what they want to do, no appropriation necessary.
(It does make me laugh when TIMs forget they are LITERALLY women and accidentally remember when they were men, or align themselves with men though. That is LITERAL VIOLENCE. How do you even punish yourself for that? Throw yourself in a fire? Punch yourself in the face? )

whoputthecatout · 25/02/2018 16:41

Just think: while the Mermaids mob are frothing at the mouth about Mumsnet they are losing valuable time persuading parents to lop bits of their children and pump them full of drugs.

So we can't be all bad.

pisacake · 25/02/2018 16:43

She has 16,500 tweets. How can she complain about bored housewives?

Fekko · 25/02/2018 16:46

Christ I have to tweet for part of my job and haven’t clocked up that many!

Someone with too much time in their hands and trying to frantically justify their own life choices and persuade others to madly follow suit?

sportinguista · 25/02/2018 16:53

It's like lemmings persuading each other to jump off the cliff...an odd kind of madness.

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2018 17:08

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

Groupthink requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup"). Furthermore, groupthink can produce dehumanizing actions against the "outgroup".

To make groupthink testable, Irving Janis devised eight symptoms indicative of groupthink.

Type I: Overestimations of the group — its power and morality
Illusions of invulnerability creating excessive optimism and encouraging risk taking.
Unquestioned belief in the morality of the group, causing members to ignore the consequences of their actions.

Type II: Closed-mindedness
Rationalizing warnings that might challenge the group's assumptions.
Stereotyping those who are opposed to the group as weak, evil, biased, spiteful, impotent, or stupid.

Type III: Pressures toward uniformity
Self-censorship of ideas that deviate from the apparent group consensus.
Illusions of unanimity among group members, silence is viewed as agreement.
Direct pressure to conform placed on any member who questions the group, couched in terms of "disloyalty"
Mindguards— self-appointed members who shield the group from dissenting information.

TerfyMcTerface · 25/02/2018 17:15

See also: "social contagion" and "mass hysteria".

JustHooking · 25/02/2018 17:17

Are they called mermaids because mermaids do not have female genitalia 😇

MrsJoshDun · 25/02/2018 17:19

Is she still frothing about us on Twitter?

MrsJoshDun · 25/02/2018 17:20

are they called mermaids because mermaids don’t have female genitalia

Or are they called mermaids because mermaids don’t exist, no matter how hard you wish they did?

Geronimoleapinglizards · 25/02/2018 17:21

Reading the sneering about being university-educated quite frankly makes me want to go and sign up for a Phd.

Women have been denied an education for centuries. The better educated women are, the better for society.

MrsJoshDun · 25/02/2018 17:26

Yeah I’m at a loss to understand the digs at both university educated women and also SAhMs.....guess the common denominator is having a dig and a good sneer at women.

Myunicornfliessideways · 25/02/2018 17:29

RedTB Have I told you lately that I love you? Flowers

Fab posts everywhere. Every one a gem of information.

therealposieparker · 25/02/2018 17:36

Is it called Mermaids because trans identifying males call women "fish"? You know us stinking women with our vaginas all unclean with that amazing self cleaning that took a millennia to evolve.

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 25/02/2018 17:39

”on mn that often to have time to engage with ‘feminist’ forums”

Well actually Helen, I’m disabled, autistic, pretty much housebound and rather ill. Some may suggest that you check your privilege with such a statement...

Swipe left for the next trending thread