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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Well this is interesting

42 replies

Gileswithachainsaw · 12/02/2018 19:52

Again self ID is up for grabs

I'm a straight nearly middle aged white woman but I might identify as a disabled black lesbian.

Not offensive at all.Hmm

Well this is interesting
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TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 20:37

Shame all those annoyed men can't muster some interest in the female erasure from the Labour Party.

Well judging by the disbelief expressed with regards to people suggesting white men just self identify as one of the permitted groups, I largely suggest they just haven't really realised.

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 20:38

Its making me want to sign up to Twitter just so I can point out where it says they can self identify as any of those categories

Haha me too!

Bejazzled · 12/02/2018 20:40

Labour are dead to me

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 12/02/2018 20:42

"Its making me want to sign up to Twitter just so I can point out where it says they can self identify as any of those categories"

I have been. It's great fun. You have never seen so many gobby people STFU. Do it

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 12/02/2018 20:45

I will be self identifying as a black, disabled, trans, 21 yr old.

(I am none of these these)

Notwellbitch · 12/02/2018 20:46

Well judging by the disbelief expressed with regards to people suggesting white men just self identify as one of the permitted groups, I largely suggest they just haven't really realised.

Some of them seem to have grasped the self id but think it only applies to being a woman. That's because the term "woman" has been successfully established as being just a feeling that any man might have.

They havent grasped that the info clearly says self id is accepted for all the categories. Because that would be totally different obviously (not really) and couldn't possibly be the the case right?

Notwellbitch · 12/02/2018 20:48

I have been. It's great fun. You have never seen so many gobby people STFU. Do it

Grin great work !

LaContessaDiPlump · 12/02/2018 20:50

I self-identify as a cabbage. I'm vegan so already have a greenish hue.

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 20:54

Labour are dead to me

And to me. I've always and voted Labour but I shan't again, not since they have shown such a disregard for me and all women.

I wasn't a party member though, so my loss won't be quantifiable to them yet.

The trouble is, who do I vote for now?

Ah, very true... Notwellbitch

misscockerspaniel · 12/02/2018 21:02

Labour has got a bigger problem than self-ID and that is Momentum. It will be years (and a number of lost general elections) before it becomes a electable.

BlackBetha · 12/02/2018 21:06

Honestly, right now it's like Labour and the Conservatives are competing to see who can be the least electable...

Gileswithachainsaw · 12/02/2018 21:28

Well dp as all about the "what about the men" just like the commenters

Ffs it's pointless

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TERFousBreakdown · 12/02/2018 21:35

I'll say here what I've also said on Twitter:

Weren't racial self-ID or disability-related self-ID 'totally different and definitely racist/ableist' just a second ago? Weren't people going on and on about how Rachel Dolezal (BAD!!!) was not, in any way, shape or form, to be compared to trans people (GOOD!!!)?

I'm not usually a proponent of the slippery slope type of argument which is - correctly so, in my humble opinion - generally regarded to be a logical fallacy of the first order. However, I sort of struggle to see how this is not precisely what's happening here:

Affluent white penis-havers of the world, unite!*

* Terms and conditions apply. For reasons of appearance, we strongly suggest you self-identify as disabled black women, preferably survivors of physical or sexual assault, in the course of any uniting-related activities so as to better mitigate the risk of people pointing out that you're literally the most over-privileged fucks on the face of the planet today!

HomeTerf · 12/02/2018 21:40

Hopefully JV will choose to discuss this on his programme just so he gets the chance to explain himself for questioning it. (Though discussion on JV could be a very mixed blessing.)

ALittleBitOfButter · 12/02/2018 21:54

The straight white men who want to join the top of the identity politics victim hierarchy will simply self-define "minority ethnic" as celtic heritage. "My great grandfather was Cornish etc." And I say that in all seriousness. If i were a betting woman...

CurriedNoodle · 13/02/2018 08:36

Has his tweet been deleted now?

TheGoldenBough · 13/02/2018 08:39

Yep. The page no longer exists.

Must have been a fair amount of dissent then.

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