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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Let the games begin...

91 replies

wiccamum · 04/02/2018 20:28

I’m a woman.

Not a “cis woman”. Just a woman. Sometimes I wear makeup, sometimes I don’t. I can put the bins out and I can cook...sometimes I don’t fancy doing either.

I have opinions and I like to express them.

Stop taking posts down MNHQ!!! Let us speak, on the safe forum that is Mumsnet. That is all.

Let’s see how long this one stays up...

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Ereshkigal · 04/02/2018 21:07

Me too. I can hardly concentrate on anything else. Have too keep looking here to see what happening

Yes, me too. I'm not sure I've ever been angrier about anything in my life, including my own abuse. It's cathartic in a way to get angry, but also deeply demoralising to see how little women matter and how ingrained misogyny is.

misscockerspaniel · 04/02/2018 21:09

I am a dog. Hear me howl

MyOwnShed · 04/02/2018 21:10

I'm a woman. I own no skirts or dresses, have hairy legs, prefer mud to make up, used to play rugby and have two science degrees.

I have popped two babies out of my fanny and now pee a little when I sneeze. I've also seen my career suffer disproportionately due to being a mother and realised that I subconsciously make myself look big and tall when I'm walking out at night.

millyminty · 04/02/2018 21:10

Fairly new here and getting confused by some terminology. Please would someone explain -
TAAT
FWR
Also is there a list of all abbreviations somewhere?Thx

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 04/02/2018 21:10

Thanks for the reply Hebe

I cherish MN as one of the few remaining spaces where women can speak freely and honestly, and also the support for eg. women in abusive relationships.

I would be fucking gutted if it started censoring healthy debate.

HuckfromScandal · 04/02/2018 21:12

I’m a woman
I like the fact that I am a woman
I have days where I wear trousers and no makeup, I’m not a man on these days.
I have days where I wear heals, do my hair and wear makeup, these are not days when I am more of a woman.

I have been pregnant
But I would be a woman even if I hadn’t been
I have given birth
But I would still be a woman if I hadn’t

I DO NOT HAVE A PENIS, I HAVE A VAGINA

GoodyHumbygge · 04/02/2018 21:15

milly

thread about a thread

feminism and women's rights (what this board used to be called)

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 04/02/2018 21:17

Whether you have or haven't given birth.

Whether you did or didn't BF.

Whether you wear dresses or combat trousers.

Whether you have ovaries/breasts/a womb or not

If you have XX chromosomes...

You are a woman.

If you have XY...you are a man.

Anything else is just window dressing.

That. Is. It.

millyminty · 04/02/2018 21:19

Thanks Humbygge

SmurfOrTerf · 04/02/2018 21:20

Lana I did report someone on it for sock puppeting, so it is likely they had a ton of reports at the same time

MissBeehiving · 04/02/2018 21:20

I am a woman.

I bleed and have been pregnant, miscarried, and given birth because I am a woman.

I have been assaulted and abused because I am a woman.

Sometimes my freedom to do what I want, when I want is restricted because I am a woman.

I have been discriminated against in my career because I am a woman.

I wear dresses, skirts and heels. I wear trousers. I wear makeup. None of that makes me a woman or a man.

SwearyG · 04/02/2018 21:22

I am a woman
I haven’t given birth or breastfed
I have short hair
I studied STEM subjects and worked in a traditionally male industry
I rarely wear make up or heels
I no longer have a uterus.

I am still a fucking woman. I may not perform femininity and I have not done many of the things women can do, but that makes me no less a woman.

The only thing that makes me a woman is the biology I was born with.

Datun · 04/02/2018 21:25

millyminty

Here is a link to a thread about other acronyms (about this issue. If you want general mumsnet acronyms they are on the site somewhere, can't quite remember where, but they're there)

And an explanation of the basics.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

SmurfOrTerf · 04/02/2018 21:25

Milly there is a list of acronyms but I don't know where they've moved it to. But if you ask people will explain

SmurfOrTerf · 04/02/2018 21:26

X post with Datun

Poppyred85 · 04/02/2018 21:27

I AM A WOMAN
I was born and socialised as a girl. Thanks to my kick-ass mum I believed I could do anything a man could do. I became a doctor and for years was called “nurse” by patients and their relatives, with the assumption my male junior colleagues were senior to me.

I am small and not physically strong. I get nervous walking my dog where I live when it’s dark, even though I know there’s no one there.

I suffered an horrendous pregnancy, delivered a baby prematurely and connected myself up to a machine like a dairy cow 8 or more times a day for months to be able to give my child the breast milk he needed like the medicine being pumped through his veins and the oxygen into his incubator. I cried when he came home and I couldn’t then feed him myself.

I suffered severe complications in a second pregnancy which had to be terminated for my own physical and mental health. I had to watch myself bleed for days on end as i lost a much wanted pregnancy.

As wonderful as my husband is, he will never feel the pain I did through those things. He cannot feel like a woman because we are more than our feelings and a group of stereotypes.
I AM A WOMAN and I will not be silenced.

GoodyHumbygge · 04/02/2018 21:28

Here's the comprehensive list of general acronyms

www.mumsnet.com/info/acronyms

PositivelyPERF · 04/02/2018 21:29

I am a woman and my lived experience as a woman was far more fucking traumatic than that of any man in a dress.

I was made to wait with my sister for the left overs, after my father and brothers had stopped eating because I was a REAL girl.

I was sexually abused throughout my childhood because I had a real vagina.

I was sexually assaulted by my doctor because I was a REAL female, teenager.

I was raped by my first serious boyfriend because I had a REAL vagina that he could force his MALE cock into.

I’m have men mansplaining to me, how to run my successful business because I am a WOMAN.

I had men creep around me, while telling me how to run my life, after my darling husband died, because I am a REAL woman.

Any man in a dress that has his feelings hurt, because I won’t play into his fantasy that he is a woman, can bend over and kiss his own arse, because I won’t be a fucking stupid handmaiden and kiss his arse for him. While he’s down there he can use his MAN’S cock to wipe away his tears, because I NO LONGER CARE if his feelings are hurt.

brizzledrizzle · 04/02/2018 21:30

I'm a woman. I was born a woman. I will always be a woman.
I was a 'tomboy' according to others and people said I looked like a boy because I wasn't allowed long hair. My attitudes were socially unacceptable for a girl, people were sorry for my mother who wanted a girlie girl and got me. I'm still feminine because I'm a woman but conform to no stereotypes and that suits me fine.

A tomboy, of course, is a girl who can play with whatever she wants, no such thing as boys toys or girls toys. It was the same for my children too, all toys were for both. A tomboy is a daft concept in my book and is as unnecessary as the current silliness going on with the trans stuff.

Justabunchofcunts · 04/02/2018 21:34

Yes, me too. I'm not sure I've ever been angrier about anything in my life, including my own abuse. It's cathartic in a way to get angry, but also deeply demoralising to see how little women matter and how ingrained misogyny is.

Me too on the being angry. But also heartened to see how much women seem to matter to each other, how much we have in common even from very different walks of life.

Justabunchofcunts · 04/02/2018 21:34

Also guys read mumsnet' post - I don't think they are trying to shut down debate.

PositivelyPERF · 04/02/2018 21:37

Nth, while I’m on a role, I DON’T CARE if you don’t have your penis removed because it hurts. Try having endometriosis and being in pain to the point of fainting, while you bleed through your tampon AND pad, every couple of hours for days on end.

Try having your womb and ovaries removed and endometriosis scrapped off your bowel, then cry that the operation to have your penis removed would hurt too much. Either commit to the trangender feelings you claim you have or you will always be a man in a dress. True Transsexuals have my respect, because they have had to work with their issues and commit and I will call them she, but you? No!

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 04/02/2018 21:40

I am a woman. And you women are awesome

I used to have a penis.... I grew it inside me when I was pregnant with my son. That's the only time a woman has a penis. Ever. No exceptions.

ladyballs · 04/02/2018 21:40

Still here. Still a woman.

PositivelyPERF · 04/02/2018 21:40

I don’t think I’ll have that glass of wine after all. I feel so much better after that. 😁

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