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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Having to announce we're not transphobic at the start of every post...

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ShotsFired · 03/02/2018 21:38

I am so fed up of all of us having to politely and proactively preface posts with disclaimers about how we also want for "true" transgender (aka the Currys and Pidgeons of this world) people to be able to get on with their lives in peace; how we accept them in our lives and how we have no beef with them - all to finally get to the point which is about the quite different kettle of fish that is MRAs/TRAs with their self-id steamrolling bullshit.

In no other sphere of conversation do we have to start off with disclaimers like this. I try to assume everyone is coming from a good place until and unless they reveal themselves not to be.

So it yanks my chain to see sensible, kind and intelligent women having to actually formally announce they aren't transphobic bullies, because why would anyone assume they were, given they are talking a different problem and group of people?

Gah. I know the circs mean we have to otherwise it ends up in a ridiculous "gotcha" from the activists and the SM megaphones, but still....

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cista · 03/02/2018 21:39

I think we need to coin the acronym NATALT...

TheButterflyOfTheStorms · 03/02/2018 21:39

In no other sphere of conversation do we have to start off with disclaimers like this.

NAMALT?

UpstartCrow · 03/02/2018 21:46

Rise of ‘morality schools’ for Chinese women
apnews.com/877193b3121c4c4a988ba7aad66f8283

Women are being taught to bow and apologise to their husband, to not fight back when beaten, to not talk back when scolded.

“Women should just stay at the bottom level of the society and not aspire for more,” another teacher says.*

The same story is happening world wide. Women are being taught their place, and their place is submissive to men.

MaxWeber · 03/02/2018 21:52

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OvaHere · 03/02/2018 21:56

I feel you OP. Someone linked a twitter account earlier who described themselves as a RudeFem. Grin That's how I feel a lot of the time.

I have much respect for posters like Datun though who have endless patience in solidly refuting batshittery with clear and concise facts. I understand that it's important for lurkers and journalists who might be reading.

I agree about the disclaimers but to win this we probably for the most part have to go high when they go low.

hipsterfun · 04/02/2018 11:18

Datun is, as somebody said elsewhere, a legend. Saying the same things, day in, day out, in an intelligent, accessible and measured way.

Datun · 04/02/2018 11:26

Honestly, the only thing that stops me exploding is gargantuan self restraint.

Grin
mumzuki · 04/02/2018 11:27

Hush and apologise, obnoxious women.

So it is, was, and if the TRAs get their way, always will be.

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:44

I don't apologise but I feel I have to make change to hide myself. Feeling less like I need to.

Definitely have taken notes from Datun's style I promise I'm not stalking you Datun

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:44

*namechange

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