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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bluestocking lock in!

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QuentinSummers · 29/01/2018 22:00

Posted a whole thing on the last thread and it was locked!

Last thread here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3062013-The-Bluestocking-is-open-for-business
Here's my post replying to Moth
Thats an interesting article moth. Best not on the board or MRAs would be all over it!
I was wondering today, hopefully, if the news about darts getting rid of the girls means the overton window is shifting and maybe p0rn will become less acceptable?
If not all this hooha about F1 girls and the presidents club is just tinkering on the edges.

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Freshlylaidterf · 02/04/2018 22:25

Large brandy please last girl cheers. Heres to spring and hope springing eternally!

Freshlylaidterf · 02/04/2018 22:26

Goodnight Katara. Dont think prosecco goes off btw!

QuentinSummers · 02/04/2018 22:29

women not wanting to be female so badly, they wish to cut off healthy body parts
Absolutely. It's heart breaking. Big operation too with a ten week recovery time.
I hope it makes them happy but I can't see how it will. Sad

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Freshlylaidterf · 02/04/2018 22:31

Me either Quentin I feel so bad for young women these days.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 02/04/2018 22:33

Night Kat!!

Large brandy for Freshly......it's soo nice to have space that is for women!! Thank you so much for doing this (whichever women it was)Thanks

Freshlylaidterf · 02/04/2018 22:44

Thanks. Think Id better make it a night cap, this is the latest Ive stayed up for ages!

The lib dem thread has gone hillarious btw if anyone needs cheering up.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 02/04/2018 22:49

Katara, school tombola prizes have improved since I was at school!

Quentin, that could have been my friend's friend if you're in the Liverpool area. Than again, apparently the waiting list is very very long....

QuentinSummers · 03/04/2018 07:44

No I am not in Liverpool.
This person has been waiting 2 years. Tbh not clear in the convo if they even still want the op.

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SpringNowPlease2018 · 03/04/2018 10:42

Quentin that's interesting

two years is what my friend's friend was told! Interestingly when the one having the op told her mum, the mum said she felt the same way herself but in her day, transgender wasn't a thing.

I think it's a shame because effectively what friend's friend is doing is just transgender with top surgery - which is aggressive - and dressing like me, no dresses or skirts ever, and changing her pronouns. I find it extraordinary that anyone volunteers for stuff like surgery so arguably no different than someone having cosmetic surgery, but i don't know...

they started off with "call me he" then moved to "they" and I just wondered if they are rethinking the whole thing. I also was told by our mutual friends that she's very childfree - like me, I mean absolutely no way in hell would we ever have had children - and I worry slightly that she thinks this has something to do with her feelings and that womenz are supposed to coo over babies etc or that not wanting children makes us weird.

I do think that in a generation where many people who couldn't have children now can, if you say you don't want them you are considered much more weird than if you said that 20 years ago. Some of my parents' friends have agreed with this too.

Katara · 04/04/2018 20:53

I am having a gin and tonic and breathing Gin

I broke into opera singing* about the mess of the house earlier. My children think I have finally lost the plotGrin

*my approximation of this

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 04/04/2018 21:13

I broke into opera singing about the mess of the house earlier

Sometimes that is really the only possible response 🎶

SpringNowPlease2018 · 04/04/2018 21:48

Katara, I wonder how they'd react if you sang that "I was gonna clean my room ....but then I got high" etc.

Just organising with friends to see the film Ghost Stories. The theatre version scared me so much I said they should give out free boxes of hair dye. But the film can't be that scary......

SpringNowPlease2018 · 05/04/2018 18:33

I really fancy some crisps....not fussed about a drink, just a sudden crisp urge!

SpringNowPlease2018 · 05/04/2018 18:33

apparently craving crisps is a sign of a restless brain. Which seems fair, given that I posted this in two posts!! Grin

QuentinSummers · 05/04/2018 19:45

I'm wondering about zen/fate today. A perfect storm of shite has impacted my life over the last month and I don't know whether the universe is trying to tell me something...

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SpringNowPlease2018 · 05/04/2018 19:48

Quentin, sorry to hear that Flowers

What might the message be? Is there a toxic person involved here?

Katara · 05/04/2018 20:19

Quentin do you know how to read astrology and where the planets are in relation to your birth chart? (It is quite a fun way to deal with shit storms, to try to work out which planet to blame and what the universe wants you to learn)

I know the comment about the universe was not meant seriously, but the thing to remember is that (if you give any credence to astrology) all planets transit through, and so any shit will pass too.

Although the planets on the outer edge of the solar system take longer to pass obviously.

Sometimes the stars just tell you all you can do is bunker down until the shit passes - is that a possibility?

QuentinSummers · 05/04/2018 20:28

No, no toxic people. Just an unfortunate sequence of events forcing me to face up to stuff i have been avoiding. And I don't know what to do. Wabash.

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QuentinSummers · 05/04/2018 20:29

I have no fucking clue what Wabash means.
I'm very scientific so normally I think it's all coincidence but this is just too much. Maybe fate or something. Or maybe it is coincidence and I'm over thinking it. Might go divert myself with some astrology.

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SpringNowPlease2018 · 05/04/2018 20:35

Didn't the wise turtle in Kung Fu Panda say "man often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it?"

He might have been quoting Confucius but I like to think Kung Fu Panda is real Grin

Seriously, I hope you're okay Quentin.

QuentinSummers · 05/04/2018 20:41

Thanks Flowers
I will be fine, it's just all a bit much at the moment. Gin

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Katara · 05/04/2018 20:42
Flowers

What RL support do you have to deal with the things you have been avoiding? If there is someone to talk to, who is professional in that area, it might help (and is not a sign of weakness!).

Katara · 05/04/2018 20:43

And yes Gin I am about to have some

Sometimes it is okay not to be fine, too.

QuentinSummers · 05/04/2018 20:49

I'm about to start some fairly involved therapy through work
But the universe seems to want me to deal with stuff more quickly than that Shock

I have some v good friends too so that is also helping

Don't know if either of you read the shark cage article but there was a para in there about depersonalisation and depression that was pretty much me to a T Sad

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Freshlylaidterf · 05/04/2018 20:58

Sorry you are having a hard time quentin. Im sure therapy will help imho. It really helped me.Flowers

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