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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TIF Vs TIM prisoners

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Collidascope · 29/01/2018 13:54

Does anyone happen to know the stats? Are there more TIMs than TIFs, as would be expected? I honestly have googled, but can't find anything.

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BlindYeo · 29/01/2018 14:05

Someone posted this on another thread.

fairplayforwomen.com/prisons/transgender-prisoners/

BlindYeo · 29/01/2018 14:06

And this.

transcrimeuk.com/about-this-site-2/

Collidascope · 29/01/2018 14:21

Thank you very much, Blind. Going to read further but from a quick glance there don't seem to be any TIFs in prison. Funny that.

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BlindYeo · 29/01/2018 14:26

You're welcome. Yes, funny that.

OvaHere · 29/01/2018 14:31

I think any TIF, unless they had gone as far as phalloplasty, would be very likely to keep any inner gender feels to themselves should they be faced with prison time. I suspect in reality though they just aren't many committing crimes. They have a strong incentive not to if they thought there was even a chance they would go to a male prison.

I've often wondered if that was the reason the high profile case from a while ago (Gayle Newland?) didn't use the identifies as a man defence because their lawyers knew a custodial sentence was likely.

BlindYeo · 29/01/2018 15:20

I'm going to have to read about Gayle Newland when I've got time, thanks Ova. Love your name btw!

OvaHere · 29/01/2018 15:39

Thanks BlindYeo it's surprisingly hard to find a good name that isn't taken!

OlennasWimple · 29/01/2018 16:15

But, but, but....gender dysphoria makes people act completely out of character and do horrible things even though they are lovely people and....this seems to only be men. Not women suffering from gender dysphoria breaking into teenage boys bedrooms to make inappropriate use of their undies.... Hmm Angry

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2018 16:22

gender dysphoria makes people act completely out of character and do horrible things even though they are lovely people and....this seems to only be men

And coincidentally makes them behave exactly like male offenders.

My theory is that the very first thing someone should have to do to be 'living as a woman' is give up male pattern, violent, sexual offending. Because women do this in vanishingly tiny numbers. It is the most female thing ever to NOT sexually offend.

GoodyHemlock · 29/01/2018 16:25

My theory is that the very first thing someone should have to do to be 'living as a woman' is give up male pattern, violent, sexual offending. Because women do this in vanishingly tiny numbers.

So much this.

SmurfOrTerf · 29/01/2018 17:32

Exactly MrsTP

OlennasWimple · 29/01/2018 17:33

Yy, MrsTP

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