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Were you a Labour Party member who has left due to GRA issues and self ID

86 replies

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 23/01/2018 19:24

Just that question really. I was and I finally left following the appointment of Lily Madigan as Women's Officer. I'd really like to know the number of other people who have done the same.

Have you left, or are considering leaving due to similar concerns?

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CAAKE · 26/01/2018 18:50

I left after Lily Madigan was appointed. I wrote a letter and sent copies to our CLP and the main party. I had an identikit response from the party, but I did have a very nice email exchange with a woman in our local office where I sent her some articles and the links to some MN threads and she later thanked me very much for peak transing her 😁

CAAKE · 26/01/2018 18:50

And yes, I'm currently homeless.

NeganLovesLucille · 26/01/2018 18:53

cancelled my membership over their ridiculous stand on self idienifying and the madigan fiasco.

DrStringzDulcimer · 26/01/2018 19:05

I have been a Labour voter since the age of 18, and a member for several years.

I have left over the GRA and the AWS.

Unlike many on this thread, I was hopeful about Corbyn. I have friends who are his constituents and who have always been very happy with him as a constituency MP. I voted for him in both leadership elections. I thought it might be a chance to move the Overton Window, even though I've never really believed he could be PM. I do still support the Labour manifesto (as was). DP even joined Momentum, so it's not all 22-year-old SJWs and 'brainwashed hysterics'!

But first Brexit, now this. It's not that I didn't know he was a eurosceptic, btw. But this is the last straw. I cannot support a party who so blatantly don't give a flying fuck about me or my concerns.

I feel really, really sad about it. I have absolutely no-one to vote for now. I have been disenfranchised by my own party.

DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 26/01/2018 19:58

I left last week, emailed my reasons and never heard back. I am also politically homeless. Sad

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 26/01/2018 20:18

DrSringz my experience and position mirrors yours very closely, I was hopeful about JC and even joined Momentum. I've left Momentum too over the GRA issue.

I'm totally homeless politically and to not vote goes against my family and political principles.

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nolurkynolighty · 26/01/2018 20:33

yup. joined because thought corbyn offered hope to the most vulnerable.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 26/01/2018 21:22

Bear with me, while I try to explain myself....

I am actually thinking of joining because of this whole mess.

Isn't it better to be on the inside and try and change things from there?

What if some sort of vote is held, and all the people against it have left. What do we do then?

Someone was recruiting for Labour in my town a few weeks before Christmas, and I told him I wanted to sign up but their stance on the GRA was the only thing stopping me. He knew nothing about it but wanted me to join so I could speak to others seeing as I obviously felt so passionately.

Just a ruse to get me in? Or genuine?

Thegirlinthefireplace · 26/01/2018 21:24

Unfortunately I left about 6 months ago over Brexit. I wish I'd held out a few months so I could leave over this.

Thegirlinthefireplace · 26/01/2018 21:25

P.s. My experience was that no one appeared to give a shit that I had left or why.

flapsDentata · 26/01/2018 21:49

Boobs, you won’t be able to change anything. I was a member for ten years, grieved so hard. Heartbroken when I left 2015. Now I feel great. My vote is up for grabs, you are the kingmaker. We decide elections. Tribalism never serves anyone. Make the buggers work for your vote.

doctorcuntybollocks · 26/01/2018 21:52

If women who've been in the party for years - even decades - are being silenced, what makes you think that they'll listen to a new member?

Akire · 26/01/2018 21:56

Feel homeless too, but given we’re i live is only two horse race I’m not sure I could abstain and risk tories getting in. Catch 22

BarrackerBarmer · 26/01/2018 22:02

I've been idly wondering today how many women it would take to join the useless WEP covertly, and when the timing is right, execute a strategic coup and declare it to be the party fighting for adult human females.
And all the politically homeless women can flock to it, make a protest vote for it, scare the willies off the other parties because of the sheer voting potential of disillusioned women, and subsequently get their sexist, woman-hating houses in order to entice us all back.

And then we can finally get back to whatever it was we did before we had to fight for our own existence.

flapsDentata · 26/01/2018 22:33

Corbyn has never cared about women or inequality. In forty years under his stewardship inequality has widened so much, that it beats Kensington in wealth dispracity. It’s offically the worst place in Britain to be a woman. there are business all over the ward with gender segregation policies. He covered up whistle blowers and survivors complaints about child abuse, google Corbyn Dickinson. Anyway, I know from my experience on the left in my youth how monsterous the Bennites are. And they are in bed with that rape cult the SWP. Corbyn has never cared about the working classes, the Jewish community, child safety or indeed women. Sorry to rant, but this dude is the worst kind of labour man. His brocalism runs deep, his hatred of the west, and of genuine progress and aspiration. With added cynism. He is a bona fida bad man. This man argued that peadophilia was a social construct. I know this because a friend was in that CLP and heard him. She resigned. I could go on about how his arrest was a total fraud, and he was told not to get arrested as the ban was to be lifted and they could pocket legitimately. How do I know this? A friend was on the branch of the AMC. The man has always been a posturing, self serving, egotistic douche bag.

And breathe.

climbs off soapbox

www.google.co.uk/amp/m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59b7a68fe4b031cc65cc5c24/amp

flapsDentata · 26/01/2018 22:38

And if you think the left belive in democracy, I have news. They don’t. This is an outrage in two parts, it’s lack of coverage and the start of the same hard left Bennite corruption that destroyed cites in the 1980s when labour controlled them. GBH is a drama based on fact. Anyway, prepare to be outraged.

853london.com/2018/01/25/greenwich-labour-candidate-selected-despite-being-condemned-by-judge/

flapsDentata · 26/01/2018 22:42

I was interested in the WEP, but it’s useless. Jolly hockey sticks and no teeth.

DrStringzDulcimer · 28/01/2018 11:56

So...last night, after a few drinks at a party, I got into a conversation about politics and, emboldened by the booze, I brought up the issues around AWS and the GRA.

No-one in the group of maybe six 40-something, politically-active (Tory, Labour, Lib Dem...even socialist) and opinionated people had heard about the issues. But all of them were absolutely gobsmacked and horrified when I explained it. And the thing was, they all got it, immediately. They absolutely saw the implications for women.

One of them was a true-blue Tory friend with whom I've had many heated conversations about Corbyn and the Labour party. He was gracious enough not to gloat about my change of heart.

DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 28/01/2018 12:06

The more this idea gets floated the more people are horrified. the idea that anyone can say there female and they are, and have an access all areas pass.

Putyourdamnshoeson · 28/01/2018 12:16

Have you seen Corbyn's arrogant performance on the Andrew Marr show this morning.
Sad

HairyBallTheorem · 28/01/2018 12:24

I cancelled my DD yesterday. Must write to my MP to say why. (I'm sure he'll write back with some half-arsed response about being on the right side of history and it being just like gay rights, but what the fuck, at least I can register my annoyance).

LangCleg · 28/01/2018 12:44

I'm still hanging on. Just.

FattyCat · 28/01/2018 13:06

Yes, I left over this issue. Lifetime Labour voter.
I have opted out of giving them money through my union subscription too. I'm not paying the fuckers to erase women.

Sabistick · 28/01/2018 13:10

This might be a little off topic. If you are a labour voter, with a great female labour mp, what do you do? This momentum/labour fusion is distasteful , and im not sure if they are elected can be resisted by sensible minded labour mp's. Do i vote for and get animal farm in parlement or tactically and lose a good mp?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/01/2018 13:13

Not Labour, but I have just left the Scottish Greens over this. Patrick Harvies' arrogant and dismissive statement was the straw that broke this camel's back.